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@MIXEDGREENS

Can you hate me more tongue.gif .

Been running i5 4690K OC'd to 4.9GHz CPU @ 1.255V + 4.4GHz Cache @ 1.10V with 2400MHz @ 1T 11-13-14-32 on air biggrin.gif (no delid still stock) for several months now. Below are screenies from when I set the OC, some temps are higher than current setup as I don't have Vapor-X 290X dumping hot air in case.

1st ran 48hrs x264 (Click to show)

Then pretty much straight after that I ran 4hrs RB stress mode (Click to show)

Then I may have gamed for a bit and left system running f@h for 17hrs (Click to show)

Bios settings I changed from defaults for above OC (Click to show)
Ai Overclock Tuner [Auto]->[XMP]
1-Core Ratio Limit [Auto]->[49]
Min. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]->[44]
Max. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]->[44]
DRAM Command Rate [2]->[1]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Enabled]->[Disabled]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]->[Adaptive Mode]
CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]->[0.001]
Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage [Auto]->[1.254]
CPU Cache Voltage [Auto]->[Manual Mode]
CPU Cache Voltage Override [Auto]->[1.100]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Auto]->[Disabled]
SVID Support [Auto]->[Enabled]
CPU C-States [Auto]->[Enabled]

I've encountered 2 differing f@h units in the past few months which caused me some issues, each occasion I raised VID up to 1.260V but it did not help instead disabling SVID support solved the issue. I found this odd as I'm not changing BCLK from stock. I used to keep SVID support enabled to see CPU Package Power but now HWiNFO supports a read of VCCIN rail amps / watts which I use as a rough idea.

HWiNFO Asus EC VCCIN Rail (Click to show)


@fyzzz

What RAM you got mate? I can't get the HyperX Savage to improve on timings (didn't change voltage for anything though, so all pretty much stock/above settings).
My AiDA64 result (Click to show)
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Guessing 4.8 at 1.3v is a good thing then huh? Im only using 4.5 at 1.2v and its been stable for a couple weeks now.

You don't wanna know what VID I use for 4.5GHz tongue.gif .
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Yep that's 46hrs solid f@h biggrin.gif did test RB stress mode 1hr as well but got excited at that time to try higher settings wink.gif . I hadn't tuned cache ratio at that point as was sticking with 4.1GHz to compare with another chip I had.

Edited by gupsterg - 6/5/16 at 4:53pm
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post #20623 of 22525
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You don't wanna know what VID I use for 4.5GHz tongue.gif .
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Yep that's 46hrs solid f@h biggrin.gif did test RB stress mode 1hr as well but got excited at that time to try higher settings wink.gif .

How the fudge lol. I dont trust VID/VCORE on hwinfo though i found it its quite off. Mine shows 1.189 which is totally off what VCORE shows up on the mobo with a DMM which i find far far more reliable.

I have it set to 1.200 in the BIOS then the bios still shows 1.195 or 1.1189 but cpuz shows 1.200 dmm shows 1.200 so thats what i go with lol.
    
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@MIXEDGREENS

Can you hate me more tongue.gif .

Happy to oblige!

I was literally in the middle of telling you "I would, but I'm in too good of a mood because I think I just stabilized" when I got the dreaded no-BSOD-reboot 45 minutes into a thus-far errorless run.

Eliminating the errors took a little more vRing and vSA, so here's hoping +.02 VCCIN fixes things.

In the meantime, I'm going to work on merely admiring everyone's CPUs. I don't have the stamina for hate, and besides that, I got over losing the silicon lottery long ago.

From my Athlon Thunderbird 1.0ghz that could only do 1.2ghz when everyone else's was pulling 1.33ghz at stock volts to my Athlon II x3 that sent ear-piercing shrieks to the audio bus when the 4th core was enabled, from my Geforce 6800 GTO that artifacted like crazy when enabling the soft-locked shader cores to my Radeon 5850 that filled the room with coil whine at anything over stock voltage, I just don't have much luck. I still have fun though.
Edited by MIXEDGREENS - 6/5/16 at 5:14pm
post #20625 of 22525
@bluej511

For 4.5GHz CPU VID was set as 1.045v in bios, I can't comment if the reading in HWiNFO from mobo sensors is accurate or not, as not compared it with a DMM.

Some apps show VID as VCORE, HWiNFO does not on my system. The VID/VCORE data shown by HWiNFO will match in other apps on my system.

I find on my mobo at very low VID settings CPU ends up at a little higher VID/VCORE (always used adaptive offset mode, maybe down to that). I would not have known if it wasn't for this CPU, my 1st i5 4690K did 4.4GHz CPU @ 1.18V 4.1GHz Cache @ 1.15V, 4.5GHz CPU I was able to stress test, but 4.6GHz@1.26V was too hot (did remount cooler a few times).

@MIXEDGREENS

I've been alright on CPU silicon lottery TBH, this was the 1st time I'd ever bought 2nd CPU as 1st wasn't as good IMO.

Really hoping Zen is good as wanna go back to team red CPU, for lengthy period I had AMD CPUs. IIRC 1st was an AMD K6 and then a K6-II, K6-III. I really I enjoyed my Athlon XP "Barton", may still have some screenies of data for that, then IIRC I went Athlon 64, well an Opteron and final one was a dual core Opteron. I can recall doing pencil mod on an Abit NF7-S, also really liked the DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D.

As much as I enjoyed the AMD CPUs my all time fav has gotta be the Q6600, IMO one heck of a great clocker and lasted me the longest smile.gif (had since release). Even now for general light windows use I see no difference between it and my i5. I still give it grief at times firing f@h at it with a newer GPU than in sig just for the crack, last time IIRC I did 70hrs solid CPU/GPU f@H on it (Vapor-X 290X).
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@bluej511

For 4.5GHz CPU VID was set as 1.045v in bios, I can't comment if the reading in HWiNFO from mobo sensors is accurate or not, as not compared it with a DMM.

Some apps show VID as VCORE, HWiNFO does not on my system. The VID/VCORE data shown by HWiNFO will match in other apps on my system.

I find on my mobo at very low VID settings CPU ends up at a little higher VID/VCORE (always used adaptive offset mode, maybe down to that). I would not have known if it wasn't for this CPU, my 1st i5 4690K did 4.4GHz CPU @ 1.18V 4.1GHz Cache @ 1.15V, 4.5GHz CPU I was able to stress test, but 4.6GHz@1.26V was too hot (did remount cooler a few times).

@MIXEDGREENS

I've been alright on CPU silicon lottery TBH, this was the 1st time I'd ever bought 2nd CPU as 1st wasn't as good IMO.

Really hoping Zen is good as wanna go back to team red CPU, for lengthy period I had AMD CPUs. IIRC 1st was an AMD K6 and then a K6-II, K6-III. I really I enjoyed my Athlon XP "Barton", may still have some screenies of data for that, then IIRC I went Athlon 64, well an Opteron and final one was a dual core Opteron. I can recall doing pencil mod on an Abit NF7-S, also really liked the DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D.

As much as I enjoyed the AMD CPUs my all time fav has gotta be the Q6600, IMO one heck of a great clocker and lasted me the longest smile.gif (had since release). Even now for general light windows use I see no difference between it and my i5. I still give it grief at times firing f@h at it with a newer GPU than in sig just for the crack, last time IIRC I did 70hrs solid CPU/GPU f@H on it (Vapor-X 290X).

DMM seems to be the best way, cpuz seems to show vcore the most accurately.
    
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@gupsterg I got 16gb of G.Skill Trident X 2800 mhz. Your latency seems a bit high actually.
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@aerotracks, hey man, how is it going? I hope you will see this..

I'd like to ask you if you are touching at all, or if you leave on Auto, the following settings in your ASRock Z97 OC Formula:

-- FIVR Switch Frequency Signature
-- FIVR Switch Frequency Offset
-- CPU Non-Turbo Ratio
-- Filter PLL Frequency
-- PCIE PLL Selection

Do you ever touch any of these? I hope you'll give me a brief explanation of what each one does, or a link to an article explaining these (a bit).

Have you ever tried BCLK o/c on this board? How did it go?

Thanks a lot, looking forward to your reply!! smile.gifthumb.gif
    
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@aerotracks, hey man, how is it going? I hope you will see this..

I'd like to ask you if you are touching at all, or if you leave on Auto, the following settings in your ASRock Z97 OC Formula:

-- FIVR Switch Frequency Signature
-- FIVR Switch Frequency Offset
-- CPU Non-Turbo Ratio
-- Filter PLL Frequency
-- PCIE PLL Selection

Do you ever touch any of these? I hope you'll give me a brief explanation of what each one does, or a link to an article explaining these (a bit).

Have you ever tried BCLK o/c on this board? How did it go?

Thanks a lot, looking forward to your reply!! smile.gifthumb.gif

Hey man,
I've played with these settings, they can be left on auto. Only at very high BCLK you should chose SB PLL instead of LC, but never needed any of this.
BCLK is only important when shooting for RAM frequency of DDR3-3000 and above or looking for specific memory clock at fixed frequencies (4000MHz / 5000Mhz)

Some experimenting with Hynix memories I did a few weeks back, this is where I had to go for 1.25 strap:


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@gupsterg I got 16gb of G.Skill Trident X 2800 mhz. Your latency seems a bit high actually.

Cheers smile.gif , recently a set of G.Skill Trident X 2666MHz 16GB kit was on Amazon UK for ~£50 was tempted to get that. As in general use I wouldn't notice performance gain I opted to keep the £, would have also made a loss selling the Savage set as that was ~£95 back in Q1 15.

I agree RAM seems not so great in this test, CPU cache is OK. Even going down to 11-13-13-32@1T on my current RAM = errors in memtest sadsmiley.gif . Tried some other combos as well = errors.





What do you get in MaxMEM?


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Intel Q6600 G0 Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Sapphire Toxic HD5850 Corsair Dominator 4GB 
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Crucial MX 100 256GB TR TRUE Rev.A Win 7 Pro x64 Cooler Master V650 
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