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Originally Posted by dmfree88 View Post

It would probably take 10+ minutes to do a 14+gb custom single run. Not sure but the purpose is not to test if it passes the test as the test has already been passed 20+ times from running normal then high 10 or more times each. The purpose is to assure it doesn't BSOD or freeze up when the ram is heavily loaded and the test is running.

My point is if you crash on high but not normal you are not actually stable. Loading up more ram should not make you unstable. If it does you are probably not actually fully stable and it most likely has to do with your ram or the ram controller because that is where the additional load is mostly added when increasing difficulty of IBT. Although the Vcore may still need more volts as well but I see no reason you shouldn't pass on any setting if it is really stable.
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Originally Posted by dmfree88 View Post

It would probably take 10+ minutes to do a 14+gb custom single run. Not sure but the purpose is not to test if it passes the test as the test has already been passed 20+ times from running normal then high 10 or more times each. The purpose is to assure it doesn't BSOD or freeze up when the ram is heavily loaded and the test is running.

My point is if you crash on high but not normal you are not actually stable. Loading up more ram should not make you unstable. If it does you are probably not actually fully stable and it most likely has to do with your ram or the ram controller because that is where the additional load is mostly added when increasing difficulty of IBT. Although the Vcore may still need more volts as well but I see no reason you shouldn't pass on any setting if it is really stable.

I see ur point.

I guess it all depends in the end on what kind of stability one is trying to achieve smile.gif
post #20872 of 22515
Once I gave in to my CPU's outlandish vCore demands it stopped holding my IMC hostage.

4.6ghz core, 4.3ghz ring, ddr3-2800 with snug timings, +.01v IOA, +.02v IOD, HCi stable 30 minutes and counting.



Odds are I'll end up at 4.5ghz 24/7, but at least I hit my goal.
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& triplets @ 12 too.. thats strong! Nice work MG.

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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post

& triplets @ 12 too.. thats strong! Nice work MG.
Thank you! I think it bears repeating that I wouldn't have even tried for this without your suggestion, and wouldn't have worked it out without your advice.
post #20875 of 22515
Guys, which is the "best" asus realbench version now ?
I see these new versions have H264 cut to half.... Hmmm

Anyone tested the differences ? redface.gif
post #20876 of 22515
1.77v dram? Is that legit?
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post #20877 of 22515
Don't use Realbench, it's just a compilation of open source software that they've put together as a wanna be office workload test, one part of it is Handbrake H264.
You can use OCN's own x264/5 bench for the same purpose of benching and not cooking your CPU.
post #20878 of 22515
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Originally Posted by MIXEDGREENS View Post

Once I gave in to my CPU's outlandish vCore demands it stopped holding my IMC hostage.

4.6ghz core, 4.3ghz ring, ddr3-2800 with snug timings, +.01v IOA, +.02v IOD, HCi stable 30 minutes and counting.



Odds are I'll end up at 4.5ghz 24/7, but at least I hit my goal.

Sweet mother of baby Jesus, that's a lot of voltage. 1.13V VCCSA is a lot. Maybe you need to back down a bit. I don't know if it's dangerous per se, but when the stock value is 0.82V... You get the idea. Also, over 1.3V VRing certainly isn't a good idea. I wouldn't go over 1.25V (I'm running 1.2V right now).
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1.77v dram? Is that legit?
Yeah, RAM can take a lot of voltage. I've seen people pushing over 1.9V on DDR3 sticks. Is it recommended? No. Is it safe? No one knows. I guess it should be relatively safe. Worst thing that can happen is you fry your RAM sticks, which isn't so devastating.
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Don't use Realbench, it's just a compilation of open source software that they've put together as a wanna be office workload test, one part of it is Handbrake H264.
You can use OCN's own x264/5 bench for the same purpose of benching and not cooking your CPU.

RealBench is fine, dude. Been using it for about a year, never had any problems. It also finds instabilities like a boss, only OCCT and Prime95 beat it, but these reach dangerous temps, while the max I see during RealBench is like 80C at 1.325V. Also, it tests your RAM too, so it's a more inclusive test. X264/X265 work too and are fine for testing core stability, but that's about it.
post #20879 of 22515
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Originally Posted by tolis626 View Post

Sweet mother of baby Jesus, that's a lot of voltage. 1.13V VCCSA is a lot. Maybe you need to back down a bit. I don't know if it's dangerous per se, but when the stock value is 0.82V... You get the idea. Also, over 1.3V VRing certainly isn't a good idea. I wouldn't go over 1.25V (I'm running 1.2V right now).
I took the vSA value straight from the XMP settings of other high speed Hynix kits. It's currently getting reduced.

.01v resulted in an HCi error 10 minutes in. +.03 gave me a x9Cmachine check at 5 minutes.

But it made tuning vastly simpler.
post #20880 of 22515

@ tolis626 - Your not very accurate in your statements advising against 'higher voltage'

 

*up to 1.25v on air for >8GBs of RAM is quite common even for XMP settings .. and especially when running full bank (all slots populated)

*"stock" VCCSA is independent for each IMC/CPU.. your 'stock' is not others 'stock'

*VCCSA depends greatly on the type of RAM IC.. ie - set Auto using Samsung and compare to Auto running PSC etc.

*RAM voltage below 1.85v for IB and HW is just fine so long as your IC arent getting instability from heat during extended loads.

 

I run 1.8v daily for 4x2 BSGE (garbage Kingston 1333mhz set) @ 2050mhz. Its stable using HCI memtest so far, >500% coverage & there is no risk in damaging the IC at this speed/latency/voltage

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