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Originally Posted by tw33k View Post

with default settings voltage drops at idle

Aida64 reads the same as HWiNFO

in manual mode voltage does not drop
you have to scroll down a little to see what the voltage controller sensors are reporting

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Originally Posted by tw33k View Post

they aren't the right readings for Vcore. VCore doesn't drop to 0v

hwinfo can sometimes be buggy and may need an update for you're motherboard/ controller



........sorry for double post should have read the entire thread and edit my first post redface.gif

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Edited by lilchronic - 7/12/14 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by Eddie Felson View Post

An Editorial Comment.

My old PC was a Dec of 2009 i7-860 on a ASUS Maximus III Formula mothertboard, it is four and a half years old, it has no USB 3.0, or SATA III.

It encodes Blu-rays slowly at about 14.5 fps, while my new i7-4790 encodes at about 35 fps. About 240% faster. Some of that not due to the CPU but to z97 chipset features and architecture.

But by Moore's law: twice as fast every 18 months, it should be, 18,36,52 months; it should be EIGHT times faster.

I am not completely unhappy, $340 is the LEAST I have spent on a CPU for myself in decades. But I am far from woot. I originally intended to get a i7-5960k but they have been delayed now for 2 years; until next spring? That build would cost much more and perhaps not even be twice as fast as my i7-4790k? So I caved in and purchased what Intel had for sale.

After 30 years with Intel this is my smallest ever incremental performance gain on a five year upgrade pattern.

Sorry no "woot" for devil's canyon, just a yawn. What was the quote from Intel's CEO?

"Anyone who can't get Devil's Canyon to run at 5GHz doesn't know how to over clock?"

I see a class action lawsuit in Intel's future.

In China with few cars for 40 of the last 50 years even a KIA is a big step in to the future. But for those of us who remember 8088, 286, 386. 486, and Pentium. Intel is very far from the trajectory we expect for our investment.

well then give you PC away for free

And you will be eight times nicer
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that doesn't make sense at all

you mean because I ran it only 2 minutes? how about 10 mins at same settings, which is longer prime than some on front page ran tongue.gif
here is youtube video, I shot it for the start through the first 4 mins or so, havent seen vid myself yet, but should be able to see ok.
http://youtu.be/Jzc9ibAzYRw

10 mins 5ghz prime 27.9 blend on regular settings. temps arent bad since prime 27.9 (1st default ffts are large), and im delidded with 1.469v. Didnt run it long enough to hit any small ffts.


after 10 mins showing no errors.

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are you delidded.........?

yep, couldnt do 5.15 32m or CB 5.05 prior to delidding. Also couldnt run prime 27.9 at 5ghz at all prior to delidding.
Edited by opt33 - 7/12/14 at 5:09pm
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Nah, I think that it is just a software bug..

Could be.
Even though nothing is showing the drop in vcore properly, I'm getting lower then adaptive idle temps (hottest core 28c).

So I don't know, it is kinda strange.
Maybe some of the monitoring software needs updating for z97 boards.

I ran prime95 lastnight with the manual 1.161 vcore, 2 core we pushed up to 1.181 and 2 remained at 1.161, unless the board is adapting slightly to compensate or it is a software bug.
But I will admit a 4 hour run of prime and not passing 81c was good at stock 4.4Ghz clocks, was louder than normal due to the Noctua's running at 100%, but not as loud as the split system heater..lol
Edited by schoolofmonkey - 7/12/14 at 5:21pm
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Hey guys I have a quick question. I'm trying to set my CPU to downclock when idle and also have the voltage go down respectively. I have the vcore set at 1.26 manually and am 4.8ghz stable with speedstep on and cstates on. However, the option to select a cstate (C6, C7 etc.) is grayed out. I can select a cstate no problem if I put the CPU vcore into adaptive mode. With the settings described my core speed drops to 800mhz idle, but the voltage stays a constant 1.26. Is there a setting I'm missing?
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> well then give you(r) PC away for free

I have done that many times, given away older laptops and workstations. I don't need 2 laptops, don't need 3 PCs. Lord grant me a good home for my old Q9450. I asked my pastor to let me know if he finds a worthy person who could use a nice PC.

This was a $4,940 build. I intend to keep it a while before I give it away.
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Hey guys I have a quick question. I'm trying to set my CPU to downclock when idle and also have the voltage go down respectively. I have the vcore set at 1.26 manually and am 4.8ghz stable with speedstep on and cstates on. However, the option to select a cstate (C6, C7 etc.) is grayed out. I can select a cstate no problem if I put the CPU vcore into adaptive mode. With the settings described my core speed drops to 800mhz idle, but the voltage stays a constant 1.26. Is there a setting I'm missing?
you need to enable C7 states in CPU power management section. I bet they are set to AUTO which doesn't enable C7 states.
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> Why do people always misquote Moore's law for performance? It has to do with number of transistors, not performance.

Point well taken, thank you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

Antidotaly, I have often read it expressed as "twice as fast and half as expensive every 18 months." As you pointed out that interpretation is neither accurate nor authoritative.
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I broke my I7 4790k trying to delid it I got a rma number and a free shipping label from newegg.com I shipped it yesterday Friday. if they except my rma how long do you think it will be before I get my replacement ? I have shoprunner free 2 day shipping and the guy from newegg said they are going to ship the replacment using my shoprunner 2 day shipping . but the free shipping lable that newegg sent me to ship my damaged processor back to them. was that also a 2 day shipping lable ?
    
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I broke my I7 4790k trying to delid it I got a rma number and a free shipping label from newegg.com I shipped it yesterday Friday. if they except my rma how long do you think it will be before I get my replacement ? I have shoprunner free 2 day shipping and the guy from newegg said they are going to ship the replacment using my shoprunner 2 day shipping . but the free shipping lable that newegg sent me to ship my damaged processor back to them. was that also a 2 day shipping lable ?

How did you manage to destroy it delidding? What method did you use? The vice only method is pretty much fool proof. I did it no problem at all and it was my first time delidding any cpu. Did not practice on an old cpu either.

Did you re-glue your IHS to the cpu pcb? Because they are going to inspect it. The return shipping label is UPS ground, so it wont get back to them in 2 days unless you live in california or somewhere close by.
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