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TLDR. Just read an article on Hardocp and Kyle has got a i7-4790k DC for testing and the results are not super.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/06/09/intel_devils_canyon_good_bad_ugly

Sorry if this is duplicate post, I didn't feel like reading 82 pages to see if anyone else mentioned it.

Perhaps they have one of the ****ty engineering samples?
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Thinking I might get the Pentium or the i5 for now! With a Z97 chipset board. Then wait to see if Broadwell does good and if so Upgrade to that. I wouldn't mind being in the haswell league but my 3770k isn't such a good clocker. I just don't know what to do.
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Thinking I might get the Pentium or the i5 for now! With a Z97 chipset board. Then wait to see if Broadwell does good and if so Upgrade to that. I wouldn't mind being in the haswell league but my 3770k isn't such a good clocker. I just don't know what to do.

That "low end" DC Pentium does sound interesting, throw some massive cooling on it and crank it until it cries. Wouldn't it be hysterical if that one turns out the be the gem instead of the 4790k, lol
    
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That "low end" DC Pentium does sound interesting, throw some massive cooling on it and crank it until it cries. Wouldn't it be hysterical if that one turns out the be the gem instead of the 4790k, lol
Yeah the price is what is luring me towards it. The Kicker would be if Broadwell turn failwell. I was just trying to look towards the future. My 3770k is at 4.7 24/7 I want to future proof and if the Broadwell doesn't cook bacon then. I would jump ship to Broadwell and use the Pentium for htpc and Mario cart emulators stuff like that when the friends come over. 53 watts should be easy to cool and I have water cooling already.
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TLDR. Just read an article on Hardocp and Kyle has got a i7-4790k DC for testing and the results are not super. He is maxxing out at 4.7 stable on water. 5ghz isn't happening, might be hit or miss depending on the chip you get.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/06/09/intel_devils_canyon_good_bad_ugly

Sorry if this is duplicate post, I didn't feel like reading 82 pages to see if anyone else mentioned it.

Yeah I have a feeling Intel overhyped it like crazy. PCper was only able to get 4.7ghz out of their 4790K as well.

I initially thought that 4790Ks were highly binned 4770K's with better TIM, and better power delivery from the extra caps on the back of the CPU. Because if you looked around, there are a few guys running 4.9 to 5ghz on their Delidded 4770K's. So I just thought they would save the highly binned ones for DC. I'm guessing Intel didn't really bin them as well as we thought they would.
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Because if you looked around, there are a few guys running 4.9 to 5ghz on their Delidded 4770K's. .

I thought the 4770k was soldered and couldn't be delidded?

Edit - just found the OCN thread on it, never mind.
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I thought the 4770k was soldered and couldn't be delidded?

 

4770k is the same as 3770k (not soldered, uses poor thermal paste).

 

Also I have a feeling the Broadell cpus wont net us much more performance vs haswell, maybe 10% max in general benchmarks.  Broadwell is intended to mainly improve on power usage and effeciency.

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That "low end" DC Pentium does sound interesting, throw some massive cooling on it and crank it until it cries. Wouldn't it be hysterical if that one turns out the be the gem instead of the 4790k, lol

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/intel-pentium-g3258-review-and-overclocking-benchmarks-idnum298/

Doesnt look like it. Same ceiling regardless of cooling it looks like. Not to mention in terms of pure computing benchmarks it seems to take overclocking to keep up with the i3 at stock.
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That is a interesting read on pcper. That is looking good to me and I would go with the fact that temps were better at a higher voltage. The silicon lottery will not go away though is what I think. Maybe we should get the bin numbers and keep track.
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That is a interesting read on pcper. That is looking good to me and I would go with the fact that temps were better at a higher voltage. The silicon lottery will not go away though is what I think. Maybe we should get the bin numbers and keep track.

Yes please don't forget to include your bin number when your CPU arrives, it's all ready to be updated in the spreadsheet.
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