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Yeah let's not forget though that if you are a pragmatist you have to recognize the high end has an obvious bias towards Intel. On GPUs it's not as clear, but truth be told, their chip dies are just bigger, so given they are both on TSMC and both are brilliant designers, it's not surprising NVIDIA is slightly better in many benchmarks (and natural to be slightly higher cost).

The truth is not in the middle, it's where it is.
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They have a long way to go optimization wise until November. Not a single card can run it at 1920x1080 @ 60hz.
At those stock CPU speeds, no they won't.
I get pretty good FPS at 1080p when racing against a friend on Nür. on my other rig.
Heck, it's just a GTX760 as well.
It's very CPU intensive, so overclock them.
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Its simple, AMD CPUs are bad in physics and dynamics that are needed to be synchronized along with GPU processing. I am talking about game physics fps vs rendering fps. This thing cracks down the smoothness in games that represents heavy physics. Ultimately, Its the truth that the fault is with AMD's architecture that they can not maintain physics smoothly. I remember even a Phenom II x6 at 4.0GHz was not able to give >35fps in many races in shift 2 on 720p regardless of GPU.
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I changed my settings to ULTRA and all that stuff maxed out and did a few seconds of benchmarking around Kallenhard and Wehrseifen on Nürburgring.
2014-05-21 12:41:55 - pCars
Frames: 1299 - Time: 24898ms - Avg: 52.173 - Min: 48 - Max: 56

This is with a 3570K and a GTX760.
FPS isn't dropping that much with more players, but drops more with the A.I.

I'm not running AMD because this and this...
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Originally Posted by sumitlian View Post

Its simple, AMD CPUs are bad in physics and dynamics that are needed to be synchronized along with GPU processing. I am talking about game physics fps vs rendering fps. This thing cracks down the smoothness in games that represents heavy physics. Ultimately, Its the truth that the fault is with AMD's architecture that they can not maintain physics smoothly. I remember even a Phenom II x6 at 4.0GHz was not able to give >35fps in many races in shift 2 on 720p regardless of GPU.
I don't think that is correct because that means AMD CPUs would do bad in all games without exception but that doesn't happen does it?
Shift 2 is a console port so it uses 3 cores max. You could disable 3 cores, OC the Phenom X6 and still get the same fps because clearly the other cores don't matter.
Edited by Serios - 5/21/14 at 4:40am
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Just another recycled junk from 2011

Look out chaps, we have an expert among us.


rolleyes.gif

its an alpha build!
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I dont see a flame war. I see people speaking the truth and others getting upset. I see people drawing conclusions from the data presented. Not our fault you take offense. Brand loyalty or purchase justification is just useless. Get what performs the best and be happy. Intel has been the clear winner for a long time. This is nothing new.

I have no idea what thread you are reading or what benchmarks you are seeing. But your reply itself is pretty brand loyal or even worse.

It is easy to say "hey Intel runs better so we should all buy Intel". It would ruin your own perfect Intel life as Intel would get a monopoly and prices would go even more sky high.
I am running all Intel CPUs in my rigs right now. But I still think AMD should be supported. The FX chips are different than the Intel chips. They take a different approach. No one in this thread has ever said AMD competes in the high-end segment or is up to par with Intel. Developers should in my humble opinion serve all gamers from all different wallet sizes. There are enough games out there that run great on an FX chip.

Point where it all started: the AMD chips are not where they should be in the benchmarks. The developers are not doing what they can to get the power out of the FX8350 that is there. How anyone can say that isn't true is beyond me.
 
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It is easy to say "hey Intel runs better so we should all buy Intel". It would ruin your own perfect Intel life as Intel would get a monopoly and prices would go even more sky high.
I am running all Intel CPUs in my rigs right now. But I still think AMD should be supported.

Not only AMD. The whole of x86 should be unlocked from the duopoly of AMD/Intel x86/x86-64 patents. Or even maybe transition to RISC.

But chances are it's national politics that keep it firm. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel were branded a monopoly if it were Asian.

I'm nearly sure, considering the openly hostile stance of US against Samsung when Apple made claims against it.
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Its funny how little you know about me yet pass judgment anyways. Look at my post history, I regularly defend AMD. i have AMD review threads dedicated to their awesome APUs. So no im not a Intel fanatic, nice try though. I just speak facts is all. Facts that have obviously hit a sensitive spot with you. Relax, take a breather. thumb.gif

Why would I know or care about your forum history? You blatantly ignored what I said, so I'm done with this conversation. I wasnt even defending AMD, I just pointed out the obvious flame war that you were taking a part of. Why do you think anyone against you is an AMD fanatic? If you knew MY history, you would know I'm far from a fanboy myself...
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At this point, P:CARS' only redemption for me is realism. Runs like garbage on AMD chips, and requires ultra high end GPUs to run properly. Unless it has some really state of the art physics, I'm not buying it.

   
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