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I agree until the power supply.. I run a 750w with 2 280x and my 8350 at 5.1GHZ

Yeah 1200w is way way overkill for any FX chip.

I could get away with 1000w if i wanted to with my rig and thats with my 290's clocked very high and my 8350 at 5.2Ghz
 
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Yeah 1200w is way way overkill for any FX chip.

I could get away with 1000w if i wanted to with my rig and thats with my 290's clocked very high and my 8350 at 5.2Ghz

^ now running 4x GPUs plus high OC then having 1000w or more would be worth it..
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The FX-8350, is binned to guarantee 4.0ghz base clocks, under load, no errors, within the "125W" (actually 140W) design power envelope. If we (the user) INCREASE the power envelope and cooling, it absolutely will clock higher. There is no such thing as an FX-8350 that can't be overclocked or is "stuck" at it's base clocks.

There are certainly plenty of FX-8350 samples that will not reach FX-9590 clocks, all other things being equal. There are at least some that won't even reach FX-9370 clocks.

Still, the FX-8350 is far and away a better value than the FX-9590.
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8320 about 75% hit 5Ghz
8350 about 95% hit 5Ghz
9370 and 9590 hit 5Ghz

This is all with proper cooling and the proper motherboard that can handle it.

Depends on what you consider hitting 5GHz.
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Most 8xxx chips are in the 4.5-4.8 range for 24/7 stability, with good cooling.

These figures are far more practical.
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Not way over the top.. it is all about good cooling. and good power delivery, aka motherboard and PSU

Try me on that....

I have an 860w Seasonic Platinum (proven good), a Sabretooth 990FX R2.0, and a custom loop capable of moving ~350w of heat with a 10C deltaT.

My FX-8350 is not 24/7 stable at 5GHz, and neither are a significant fraction, quite possibly a majority, of others. 4.8GHz is doable, though I prefer to run at 4.7GHz, as my part requires considerably less voltage.

5GHz is not remotely guaranteed, even when your requirements are met.
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I probably would not bother upgrading to the fx-8350. I did not see, is your chip oced? Overclock your chip to whatever you can do breathe some life into it if you have not already. If you are going to upgrade I would upgrade to a newer gen, more specifically something from intel considering AMD temporarily stopped evolving their fx line. It looks as If it will be at least 2 years for AMD to come out with anther high end chip.
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there are other threads here on OC covering the FX 9590 - this is history repeating itself rolleyes.gif

But if I was to go that route, then I would get the FX 9590

It sounds better than FX 8350

Its warranted for that speed - everybody who has their FX 8350 running 5.ghz, well done you! Many have not!

Its so damn cheap here in the UK - £ 1000 down to £215. Now the time to buy one!

It will have a better resale value then an FX 8350

Go for the FX 9590

I can see it also as being a collectable at a later date thumb.gif
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Far from being a collectable, sorry I dont buy that for a minute.Now if you said something like the Phenom II being a collectable I would agree with you.And iam just curious I did read the article for Amd bringing back the Fx line within 2 years why in the world is it going to take them 2 years to do so? In 2 years time god knows what Intel would of came out with by then, they better wake up and smell the coffee otherwise they may not have a chance at all to compete anymore! Alot can happen in 2 years time is what iam trying to say.
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Far from being a collectable, sorry I dont buy that for a minute.Now if you said something like the Phenom II being a collectable I would agree with you.And iam just curious I did read the article for Amd bringing back the Fx line within 2 years why in the world is it going to take them 2 years to do so? In 2 years time god knows what Intel would of came out with by then, they better wake up and smell the coffee otherwise they may not have a chance at all to compete anymore! Alot can happen in 2 years time is what iam trying to say.

the 9590 is the world's first consumer CPU to have a clock speed of 5Ghz, I'd call that collectable to some.

Same reason that Thubans still fetch a decent price and even Athlon 64's to some extent.

It's worth as much as people will pay for it.

I can go and get a 8320 for less than what i would pay for a 8120 right now........the 8320 is a better all round CPU but the 8120 was the first 8 core.

Same reasons really

EDIT: It takes time to develop new architecture, they can't just pop out a new design in 12 months, takes around 4 years iirc
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There are certainly plenty of FX-8350 samples that will not reach FX-9590 clocks, all other things being equal. There are at least some that won't even reach FX-9370 clocks.

Still, the FX-8350 is far and away a better value than the FX-9590.
Depends on what you consider hitting 5GHz.
These figures are far more practical.
I have an 860w Seasonic Platinum (proven good), a Sabretooth 990FX R2.0, and a custom loop capable of moving ~350w of heat with a 10C deltaT.

My FX-8350 is not 24/7 stable at 5GHz, and neither are a significant fraction, quite possibly a majority, of others. 4.8GHz is doable, though I prefer to run at 4.7GHz, as my part requires considerably less voltage.

5GHz is not remotely guaranteed, even when your requirements are met.

I am talking IBT AVX stable and yes those numbers although not based on solid evidence are roughly where they sit at. What are your Digi options set at.. I may be able to help you get further.
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Far from being a collectable, sorry I dont buy that for a minute.Now if you said something like the Phenom II being a collectable I would agree with you.And iam just curious I did read the article for Amd bringing back the Fx line within 2 years why in the world is it going to take them 2 years to do so? In 2 years time god knows what Intel would of came out with by then, they better wake up and smell the coffee otherwise they may not have a chance at all to compete anymore! Alot can happen in 2 years time is what iam trying to say.

2 years for FX yeah, that is not saying that they are going to be stopping all architectures.. A portion of that is to beef up excavator then the next arch after that.. really not worried AMD will be back swinging.
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I am talking IBT AVX stable and yes those numbers although not based on solid evidence are roughly where they sit at. What are your Digi options set at.. I may be able to help you get further.
2 years for FX yeah, that is not saying that they are going to be stopping all architectures.. A portion of that is to beef up excavator then the next arch after that.. really not worried AMD will be back swinging.
Man I really hope this is true otherwise we will be stuck with Intel dictating prices to the Cpu market, and we all know how that will turn out! thumb.gif
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Man I really hope this is true otherwise we will be stuck with Intel dictating prices to the Cpu market, and we all know how that will turn out! thumb.gif

Well.. I am not trying to hype it up.. *thats what killed BD* But Its already Shown that HSA if it takes off will be major and the Next FX will be APU
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