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So I got everything installed and powered on. It sits idle around 25-27C and I didn't see it pass 29C when I was doing all the windows installs. thumb.gif I'll post some temps once I get Prime installed and run. Prime will decide if I have to replace the CPU fan with a 120mm screwed to the side vent. During the installs, the CPU fan stayed off as the temps were low enough. I didn't look closely at the fan profile to see when it triggers the fan to turn on.

If you don't use prime except to test, don't use it at all. If you encode videos for mobile use, do some encoding. That works system as hard as most any real world use does. I sometimes run two sessions of handbrake to get 6x core 12x threads all at 100% load for testing. tongue.gif
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If you don't use prime except to test, don't use it at all. If you encode videos for mobile use, do some encoding. That works system as hard as most any real world use does. I sometimes run two sessions of handbrake to get 6x core 12x threads all at 100% load for testing. tongue.gif

I will keep that in mind and forgo Prime. I will just run a real world scenario of streaming movies for a couple hours. Hah! I'll just play Frozen for the 1 year old. That'll keep her content and I'll get my testing done. biggrin.gif
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I would first try inverting the cooler fan and see what temps do. Back fan should stay exhaust. I would have both back and front fans on temp to speed curve so it supplies airflow as needed by CPU and/or GPU cooler fans.

So I tried inverting the CPU fan and running a benchmark (FFXIV Heavensward) before and after the change to compare. The result in my case was basically a wash: GPU and chipset temps were around 2C cooler with the inverted CPU fan, but the CPU was 2C warmer.

Since the CPU and exhaust fans are thermally controlled, the additional CPU degrees put it near the end of my fan speed slope and meant the exhaust was almost 200RPM faster in inverted, so that might have been the cause for the cooler temps.

I see the inverted fan advantage for some setups but in my case I'll leave it as it is and tweak my GPU fan speed curve thumb.gif.
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post #594 of 1067
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So I tried inverting the CPU fan and running a benchmark (FFXIV Heavensward) before and after the change to compare. The result in my case was basically a wash: GPU and chipset temps were around 2C cooler with the inverted CPU fan, but the CPU was 2C warmer.

Since the CPU and exhaust fans are thermally controlled, the additional CPU degrees put it near the end of my fan speed slope and meant the exhaust was almost 200RPM faster in inverted, so that might have been the cause for the cooler temps.

I see the inverted fan advantage for some setups but in my case I'll leave it as it is and tweak my GPU fan speed curve thumb.gif.
Thanks for trying and letting me know the results. thumb.gif

Airflow is a fickled witch, and often does not do what we think it will. It take very little to influence it's flow (even a cable in the way effects flow characteristics) making very hard to say for sure if a change will give better or worse results.
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Thanks!

More data supporting how good these fans are. thumb.gif
Now all we need is retailers to buy them from and for Thermalright to make them in all black. tongue.gif
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Thanks!

More data supporting how good these fans are. thumb.gif
Now all we need is retailers to buy them from and for Thermalright to make them in all black. tongue.gif

While Noctua gets heat for off-colour earthy tones, TR goes full fluorescent orange and purple??? WTH?

At least we can be grateful they aren't distributed to every fan convenience store in town. Or any online stores in North America.

While the way too noisy 2500rpm can be tamed with PWM, the cartoon colour scheme will always be too loud. tongue.gif
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While Noctua gets heat for off-colour earthy tones, TR goes full fluorescent orange and purple??? WTH?

At least we can be grateful they aren't distributed to every fan convenience store in town. Or any online stores in North America.

While the way too noisy 2500rpm can be tamed with PWM, the cartoon colour scheme will always be too loud. tongue.gif

Don't even get me started. The TY-143 is an incredibly frustrating product. Fantastic in every regard - great air movement, excellent sound profile, huge rpm range, quiet, well constructed.....and with a color scheme that makes it impossible to use if you care what the inside of your case looks like. What were they thinking??????
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Don't even get me started. The TY-143 is an incredibly frustrating product. Fantastic in every regard - great air movement, excellent sound profile, huge rpm range, quiet, well constructed.....and with a color scheme that makes it impossible to use if you care what the inside of your case looks like. What were they thinking??????
I think you mean "with colors not even the manufacturer can stand."

I heard a rumor they had to pay double time to manufacturing staff every time the ran a back of TY-143 fans. And that the reason the TY-140 colors were changed to TY-147 (last number is color) was because manufacturing staff rioted and threatened to burn the factory if they had to make any more of the TY-140s. Only too bad they didn't include the TY-143 in that negotiation. tongue.gif

A rattle-can of black Plasti Dip and a little careful masking/plugging of gap between hub mount frame before spraying on a couple of coats changes their color very nicely. thumb.gif
Edited by doyll - 8/20/16 at 7:54am
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Okay @ciarlatano, I think we may have a simple solution.
I just took the sticker off of TY-143 SQ. Guess what? Right there before my eyes was a tiny little snap ring clipped onto fan shaft holding the fan in place. A couple of lead holders' using the metal tubes that lead goes into fit nicely into the snap ring, and squeezing the lead holders together a little spreads the clip and presto!, ring releases, and bearing (it's on a spring) slides itself and clip off of shaft. Now the fan slips out off of motor (shaft is in fan) and fan is in one hand with square housing in the other.

Biggest problem I'm seeing is finding something to re-install the clip.
1st, a ring piece to push bearing down on it's spring and hold it in place below clip groove in shaft.
2nd, another round hollow piece that clip can be stuck onto end of and pushed down over shaft to clip the clip into it's groove in shaft.

With a clip this small if it ever sprung away it would be lost forever.

I'll do some pics and post them up when I get a chance.

Edit:
Shaft is 3mm OD. My digital calipers are to thick to measure the clip ring on shaft.

Edited by doyll - 8/20/16 at 8:54am
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