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Hello guys! My name is Alex and I have the following components:
CPU: Intel Core I7 4790k Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme6
CPU Cooler: Phanteks TC14PE
GPU: Gibabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming
PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Window
Case Fans: 1x 200 mm front intake; 1x 140 mm top intake; 1x 120 mm intake mounted on the HDD cage; 1x 140 mm rear exhaust;
I have the following questions, maybe you could help me with them:
1. At 4.6 multiplier with 1.21 V i get 80 degrees in x264 Stability Test or Prime95 26.6. Is this normal for a massive cooler like this? You guys who own a NH-D15 or NH-D14 do you get simillar results in terms of temperature?
2. Do you think is something wrong with the CPU Cooler?

That feels a little hot, but not totally out of bounds.

I don't use prime95 for temp testing. x264, long runs my temps settled in around 67C to 71C Max across the cores.

My 4790K is at 4.7 1.275 VID / 1.296 Vcore

On yours, is 1.21V vCore or VID? Could it be VID is set and the board has a slight offset? I'm not familiar with ASRock boards. On my Gigabyte Z97X, VID is set to 1.275, but the voltage delivered is 1.296.

have you set any other voltages? Turned off Adaptive?

I've spent a while reading and re-reading this thread http://www.overclock.net/t/1490324/the-intel-devils-canyon-owners-club/0_30 but I'm still not 100% sure I can match all the numbers I read in HWiNFO64 to the BIOS settings.

I think I'd first try re-seating the cooler, and then I'd walk through the overclock again step by step.

edit: One more question: are your CPU temps immediately at 80C? and do they stay there? Or do they climb over time?
Edited by Dan-H - 8/28/16 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by EAl3x View Post

Hello guys! My name is Alex and I have the following components:
CPU: Intel Core I7 4790k
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme6
CPU Cooler: Phanteks TC14PE
GPU: Gibabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming
PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Window
Case Fans: 1x 200 mm front intake; 1x 140 mm top intake; 1x 120 mm intake mounted on the HDD cage; 1x 140 mm rear exhaust; Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I have the following questions, maybe you could help me with them:
1. At 4.6 multiplier with 1.21 V i get 80 degrees in x264 Stability Test or Prime95 26.6. Is this normal for a massive cooler like this? You guys who own a NH-D15 or NH-D14 do you get simillar results in terms of temperature?
2. Do you think is something wrong with the CPU Cooler?
1st thing to do is replace the 200mm front intake with 2x PH-F140SDP fans. Everyone I know with Luxe and Pro have done this and got much better case airflow and temps. Have you read the 5th post in this thread? It's about case airflow, how to monitor cooler intake air temperature and why it should be done. wink.gif
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That feels a little hot, but not totally out of bounds.

I don't use prime95 for temp testing. x264, long runs my temps settled in around 67C to 71C Max across the cores.

My 4790K is at 4.7 1.275 VID / 1.296 Vcore

On yours, is 1.21V vCore or VID? Could it be VID is set and the board has a slight offset? I'm not familiar with ASRock boards. On my Gigabyte Z97X, VID is set to 1.275, but the voltage delivered is 1.296.

have you set any other voltages? Turned off Adaptive?

I've spent a while reading and re-reading this thread http://www.overclock.net/t/1490324/the-intel-devils-canyon-owners-club/0_30 but I'm still not 100% sure I can match all the numbers I read in HWiNFO64 to the BIOS settings.

I think I'd first try re-seating the cooler, and then I'd walk through the overclock again step by step.

edit: One more question: are your CPU temps immediately at 80C? and do they stay there? Or do they climb over time?

Hello Dan. They max at 80 but they hover around 75-77 degrees.

O my motherboard I have only the Vcore Voltage setting, I never seen the VID setting in the BIOS.
My voltage is on adaptive but it maxes out at 1.21 Volts. The default Vcore set by the motherboard is 1.26 and I offset it by -0.05 V.

I reinstalled the cooler three times, cleaned the thermal paste with isIsopropyl alcohol, doing the pee method of applying the thermal paste.
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Hello guys! My name is Alex and I have the following components:
CPU: Intel Core I7 4790k
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme6
CPU Cooler: Phanteks TC14PE
GPU: Gibabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming
PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Window
Case Fans: 1x 200 mm front intake; 1x 140 mm top intake; 1x 120 mm intake mounted on the HDD cage; 1x 140 mm rear exhaust;


I have the following questions, maybe you could help me with them:
1. At 4.6 multiplier with 1.21 V i get 80 degrees in x264 Stability Test or Prime95 26.6. Is this normal for a massive cooler like this? You guys who own a NH-D15 or NH-D14 do you get simillar results in terms of temperature?
2. Do you think is something wrong with the CPU Cooler?

Hi there

Yours temps are OK in my view,as Doyll said,you can lower temps by optimizing airflow in yours case

What temps are you have when you game or what temps you have during Asus RealBench? I would suspect during Realbench yours temps will be bit lower,have run i7-4790k and have run 4.6GHz at 1.26v vCore with Input voltage at 1.79v and 43x multi for Cache and my temps has been pretty much like yours in those benches,but in RealBench my temps never been so high

I would use Realbench for OC testing,is better and in my case is proven,sometimes I run Prime where is stable for several hours,but one render in 3DS MAX will end with BSOD,due this I rather use as above RealBench

Yours cooler works there,my temps with H100i V2 has been very similar than yours in Prime or X264,I would try bench during the night when outside temps can be lower as try bench during scorching heat,but still you can lower temps by optimizing the case airflow thumb.gif

Hope this helps

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Hello Dan. They max at 80 but they hover around 75-77 degrees.

O my motherboard I have only the Vcore Voltage setting, I never seen the VID setting in the BIOS.
My voltage is on adaptive but it maxes out at 1.21 Volts. The default Vcore set by the motherboard is 1.26 and I offset it by -0.05 V.

I reinstalled the cooler three times, cleaned the thermal paste with isIsopropyl alcohol, doing the pee method of applying the thermal paste.

Edit2: I just saw your post on the Devils canyon thread so I'll remove my questions and keep this focused on the air cooling.
Edited by Dan-H - 8/28/16 at 12:52pm
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Hi there

Yours temps are OK in my view,as Doyll said,you can lower temps by optimizing airflow in yours case

What temps are you have when you game or what temps you have during Asus RealBench? I would suspect during Realbench yours temps will be bit lower,have run i7-4790k and have run 4.6GHz at 1.26v vCore with Input voltage at 1.79v and 43x multi for Cache and my temps has been pretty much like yours in those benches,but in RealBench my temps never been so high

I would use Realbench for OC testing,is better and in my case is proven,sometimes I run Prime where is stable for several hours,but one render in 3DS MAX will end with BSOD,due this I rather use as above RealBench

Yours cooler works there,my temps with H100i V2 has been very similar than yours in Prime or X264,I would try bench during the night when outside temps can be lower as try bench during scorching heat,but still you can lower temps by optimizing the case airflow thumb.gif

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

I've come to the conclusion that I expected too much from this cooler. Yes, you do have temps similar to mine but you are running 1.26 V, that 0.05 more than me. If I would run your setting I think I would reach 90 in the x264 Stability Test. I render in 3ds MAX too and the temps max out at 72 degrees, and they hover around 69-70 so that's good. I think I'll leave it at that.

I have a question. What is the effect of the input voltage on the temperatures of the performance? Because I run it at 1.9 V and you run it at 1.79.
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I've come to the conclusion that I expected too much from this cooler. Yes, you do have temps similar to mine but you are running 1.26 V, that 0.05 more than me. If I would run your setting I think I would reach 90 in the x264 Stability Test. I render in 3ds MAX too and the temps max out at 72 degrees, and they hover around 69-70 so that's good. I think I'll leave it at that.

I have a question. What is the effect of the input voltage on the temperatures of the performance? Because I run it at 1.9 V and you run it at 1.79.

Replace your 200mm front fan with the two fans doyll suggested you smile.gif

Higher CPU Input voltage always increases Core max temp (i7-4790K).
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Thank you for the responses guys, you've been great.
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I've come to the conclusion that I expected too much from this cooler. Yes, you do have temps similar to mine but you are running 1.26 V, that 0.05 more than me. If I would run your setting I think I would reach 90 in the x264 Stability Test. I render in 3ds MAX too and the temps max out at 72 degrees, and they hover around 69-70 so that's good. I think I'll leave it at that.

I have a question. What is the effect of the input voltage on the temperatures of the performance? Because I run it at 1.9 V and you run it at 1.79.

Hi there

With good airlfow you will lower temps too,as I said have run i7-4790k with H100i V2 and my temps has been same or similar to yours,have tried 1.21v and temps has been slightly lower 2-3C under load

I render mostly in 3DS MAX and my temps has been in 68-70C under load and really I wouldn't be worried regarding temps,yes can be lower,did you tried Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste?

Input voltage,it will lower temps,this has been my case there,second option is lower cache voltage what I've done and with that I've gained lower temps

Hope this helps

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Thank you for the responses guys, you've been great.

Forgot to ask you,those temps are you see on PKG(package) or on cores ?

I always looking at PKG which is usually always higher than core temp

I wouldn't be worried with those temps there,unless you will see something above 85°C and above then I would be worried

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