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Has anyone tested if a higher wattage psu eats more electricity compared to lower ones without a load?
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Has anyone tested if a higher wattage psu eats more electricity compared to lower ones without a load?

 

No, because it doesn't work that way. A PSU pulls more out of the wall outlet when your computer is pulling more power. It also pulls less power when your computer is pulling less power. How much it pulls compared to how much your computer is pulling depends on the PSU's efficiency. So let's say your computer is idling at 100W and your PSU is achieving 90% efficiency here. That would mean the PSU would be pulling 111-112W out of the wall outlet in order to deliver 100W to the computer.

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No, because it doesn't work that way. A PSU pulls more out of the wall outlet when your computer is pulling more power. It also pulls less power when your computer is pulling less power. How much it pulls compared to how much your computer is pulling depends on the PSU's efficiency. So let's say your computer is idling at 100W and your PSU is achieving 90% efficiency here. That would mean the PSU would be pulling 111-112W out of the wall outlet in order to deliver 100W to the computer.
You still lose transformation and regulation energy on idle I thought. There is a diode/voltage regulator and other component that would help keep the voltage constant and convert the extra energy into heat. I'm just wondering if the difference is negligible between a 1000 and 1600 watt. Also I was under the impression that PSU is rated at 100% load so a 1600 would do worse than the 1000watt psu operating at 100% load.
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You still lose transformation and regulation energy on idle I thought. There is a diode/voltage regulator and other component that would help keep the voltage constant and convert the extra energy into heat. I'm just wondering if the difference is negligible between a 1000 and 1600 watt. Also I was under the impression that PSU is rated at 100% load so a 1600 would do worse than the 1000watt psu operating at 100% load.

 

I'm not following. What do you mean by "would do worse"? How much power a PSU pulls from the wall at a given computer's power draw depends on the PSU's efficiency.

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You still lose transformation and regulation energy on idle I thought. There is a diode/voltage regulator and other component that would help keep the voltage constant and convert the extra energy into heat. I'm just wondering if the difference is negligible between a 1000 and 1600 watt. Also I was under the impression that PSU is rated at 100% load so a 1600 would do worse than the 1000watt psu operating at 100% load.
Yes larger wattage PSUs are less efficient at low loads such as PC idle simply due to physics and construction of the PSUs. Most Gold rated do about 85% efficiency at 10% load but the curve of efficiency starts to drop at about 15% and more rapidly the lower the load is.
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That was not asked/ given. Only of the idle wattage was static (ie 100w)

What if rather then a static number it was 10% or 5%

Thew is no way to know at that point

In either case you are taking about such a small difference in in inefficiency that it wouldn't matter. The main exception to this if you went from a (making up some numbers) 200w system with a 400w psu to a 1600wpsu
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Thanks guys, those are some really good and helpful insights. I basically went from 1000w P2 to 1600 T2 and was wondering how much cash is leaking out of my pocket while my OCed Titan Xs are not baking while playing games in 4k. I meant to test it myself but I forgot and now both PSUs are in use with all the wires plugged in neatly tucked in and unplugging either one of them would be a hell of a task just so I can test.
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Is this a full wire set or just extensions ?

Its on the full wire kit.
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idk how true this it but i would get a multimeter
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Anyone have the pin out for the evga 850w p2? P2 and G2 use the same cables

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the EVGA on the 18pin connector, you have 2 x 3.3v going to the same pin on the 24 pins

if you look on the pinout, the pin 2 on 24 pins (3.3v) is going to pin 3 and 7 of the 18pin connector



but received an answer and generally these are for voltage monitoring under load

able to remove them but better to have these connected

looks like your missing a 3.3v line? i never seen it cause issues but how many do it?

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So an update on my random restarts

I disabled all overclocks (CPU and GPU) along with changing wall socket and on a different power circuit. It ran for a week, on Battlefront, Witcher 3 and CS GO, for quite a long time in a day. I got no crashes for that entire week. I enabled CPU overclock and it was fine for three days. Then I enabled GPU overclock and game crashed (core unstable) got DirectX11 driver crash, then 1 minute later random restart. It then restarted another three times during gaming (even with CPU and GPU overclock disabled)

Then it randomly stopped restarting and I could play again for another 4 hours. I will test Witcher 3 again today

So overall I am not sure then (someone was playing with a non-working iron and kept plugging it into a different socket, same circuit, was around the same time as the restarts, however I am not too sure)
Edited by Metros - 6/9/16 at 7:37am
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