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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
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    Yes
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    No
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post #1231 of 2694
Just bought myself an MSI 980ti armor 2x edition and dimensions do fit even if it is a 10.9inches(277mm) card but the big problem is the clearance issue within its 8pin connector. frown.gif afaik the msi gaming edition for the 980ti will have a similar problem with this.


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Just bought myself an MSI 980ti armor 2x edition and dimensions do fit even if it is a 10.9inches(277mm) card but the big problem is the clearance issue within its 8pin connector. frown.gif afaik the msi gaming edition for the 980ti will have a similar problem with this.



Oh bummer!!

Maybe you could squeeze a 90 degree adaptor or a more flexible cable in there? Pic below is of an extension designed to be as flat as possible.

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this is my case, you can see the tubes over the vrm. This is all I can give you at the moment to help judge

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Originally Posted by Kade7596 View Post

Stiff tubing is the reason I exchanged a Corsair H80i GT for a Cooler Master Nepton 120 XL. More flexible tubing (the plasticy/ribbed type; feels a little cheaper/scarier, but it's more manageable) as well as a slightly thinner radiator which allowed for two fans to be used in push/pull.

I went with the H90 specifically because of the depth and tube flexibility (traded a fat 120 for a thin 140). The tubes hinge at the block/pump joints so they can be manipulated with relative ease. Of course you can't just mount a 140mm radiator in this case without moving some things around... but the hinge mechanism is on some of Corsair's other AIOs.

The front USB 3.0 cable is very stiff and doesn't respond well to flexing because it's 2 separate cables that appear to have a natural curve to them; 1 might be shorter than the other? Also, that is an evil location to put USB 3.0 on an ITX board. That's like the front audio header for my ASUS Z97 ITX. I'm really surprised by that.

However, if you route the USB 3.0 cable under the radiator and to the left, it should be long enough to lay flat against the backside of the GPU and plug right in. I would suggest unscrewing the front IO assembly first and doing the routing that way, then reassembling when it's time to put the front cover on. I had to do this with the 980ti build (which didn't come with a backplate; unbelievable!) because I was worried about damaging components on the backend of the GPU.

For anyone curious, this is the board he's talking about.
post #1234 of 2694
im planning to buy a corsair h80i gt cpu cooler, my question is - will i able to use the hard drive cage? im planning to use my 3.5 4tb hard drive for max storage, anyone? whistle.gif
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im planning to buy a corsair h80i gt cpu cooler, my question is - will i able to use the hard drive cage? im planning to use my 3.5 4tb hard drive for max storage, anyone? whistle.gif

hi with the h80i GT you will not be able to run push/pull with both fans as this will be too thick.
This does not effect the harddrive cage unless you make the tubes come out the top.
What does restrict your harddrive cage is the length of your powersupply
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post #1236 of 2694
Ok it looks like my question from last page got completely ignored so I'll ask again:

Is it worth getting an intake fan if I'm getting the solid panel version?
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Ok it looks like my question from last page got completely ignored so I'll ask again:

Is it worth getting an intake fan if I'm getting the solid panel version?

yeah absolutely it still has side vents on the front panel to intake air, bit of a mesh filter and mine has gathered a little bit of dust so it does suck through both the side (present in both) and the front
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yeah absolutely it still has side vents on the front panel to intake air, bit of a mesh filter and mine has gathered a little bit of dust so it does suck through both the side (present in both) and the front

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Ok it looks like my question from last page got completely ignored so I'll ask again:

Is it worth getting an intake fan if I'm getting the solid panel version?

Agreed. No cooling is a very bad idea. In fact, go with a fan capable of high RPMs and as large as possible in case your system is overheating.
Edited by Tiberiusisgame - 11/7/15 at 4:48pm
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hi with the h80i GT you will not be able to run push/pull with both fans as this will be too thick.
This does not effect the harddrive cage unless you make the tubes come out the top.
What does restrict your harddrive cage is the length of your powersupply

thanks! so should i go with corsair h75 then or h60? i will not be overclocking.. (im using a sfx 600w powersupply btw)
post #1240 of 2694
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im planning to buy a corsair h80i gt cpu cooler, my question is - will i able to use the hard drive cage? im planning to use my 3.5 4tb hard drive for max storage, anyone? whistle.gif

The H80i GT doesn't interfere with the installation of a 3.5" HDD, but there are other issues to consider.
As mentioned previously, I had an H80i GT and returned it. The rigid tubing was difficult to work with.
It was manageable, but it wasn't the best fit for the SG13.
  • For example, during initial installation of the pump onto the motherboard/CPU, the stiff tubing actually resulted in a rotational pull that dislodged the heatsink/pump from its mounting bracket.
  • Then there's the problem of how difficult it was to push an ATX power supply down on top of the tubing, as they're routed underneath of the PSU regardless of radiator orientation...
  • I was also unable to adequately squeeze the top-most tube coming from the radiator to the underside of the back of the PSU, and so that required me to route the tubing along the side of the PSU...
  • ...which meant that the tubing and the front panel USB 3.0 cable together pushed on the side panel/cover of the chassis, resulting in a visible bulge and a lot of strain...
  • ...and someone already mentioned that it's not possible to use the H80i GT with both included fans. It's possible to replace them with fans which are 10-12mm depth fans, but that's added cost.

So there were my issues, point-by-point. Everyone likes bullet-points.

The Cooler Master Nepton 120 XL that I purchased to replace the H80i GT has the thickest radiator possible for the SG13. It's so perfectly-sized, in fact, that I was unable to use one of the thumb screws included in the box to attach the interior fan because the head of the thumbscrew occupies the same physical space as the 24-pin ATX power connector, both on my Z77E-ITX and the P8Z77E-I.

Edit: ...and as it turns out, I can use neither of the bottom thumbscrews because the head of the lower-right thumbscrew occupies the same physical space as the 8 pin power connector. lol. Going to have to find some flatter, more normal 120mm fan length screws to replace the thumbscrews that came with the Nepton 120 XL... not that it's been a problem to have the bottom half of the fan a little wobbly. Not even any extra noise, actually.
Edited by Kade7596 - 11/8/15 at 1:19am
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