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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
  • 93% (238)
    Yes
  • 6% (16)
    No
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post #1681 of 2696
Hi Guys,

I really love this Case, and i'm going to make a High-End Build with it. thumb.gif

So for that i want to put a GTX1080 inside.
The Founders Edition (Reference Design) would fit just perfect, but the temps are pretty high and it is really loud.
So i want to take one of the first custom design cards.
The only one which maybe would fit is the MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X. (279x140x42mm)




So my question is, do you think i can fit that card in this awesome case?
post #1682 of 2696
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post #1683 of 2696
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That looks awesome dude!! How are the thermals and acoustics? Are you happy with the FE version of the 1080?
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post #1684 of 2696
I had a MSI 980ti Gaming 6G before so I actually have more room in the case. Temps dropped a couple of degrees on the CPU because of, I assume, the blower. Although I did swap out the H80i stock fan that I had running on low speed for a noctua NF-P12 when I swapped the video card out.

I'm curious to see how far I can push the GPU. I set it to +200 / +400 when I dropped it in and haven't fiddled with it since. No artifacts or crashing.
post #1685 of 2696
My friend who has the 1080 with the same case, said its pretty annoying with fans at 80-100%. He is overclocked to 2Ghz though.
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post #1686 of 2696

More RGB fans. I just want one for my Sugo front biggrin.gif
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post #1687 of 2696
Hello peeps, had this case for a month or so and loving it.

Thinking about upgrading my video card, but wondering about getting a blower fan GPU vs an open air fan GPU.

Anybody tested blower GPUs vs open air GPUs to see if which is best?

It seems that the open air ones are actually not too bad because the fans line up well with the vents on the left side.

But are blowers even better?
post #1688 of 2696
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Hello peeps, had this case for a month or so and loving it.

Thinking about upgrading my video card, but wondering about getting a blower fan GPU vs an open air fan GPU.

Anybody tested blower GPUs vs open air GPUs to see if which is best?

It seems that the open air ones are actually not too bad because the fans line up well with the vents on the left side.

But are blowers even better?

Here are the options:

1. Blower type
Pros:
Wents all heat towards the rear keeping the case free from GPU heat.

Cons:
Have to live with stock fan profile? Completely ignoring the 80C which might result as a consequence of using it.
Almost always a reference board.
If you customize the fan profile and decide to reach 100% fan speed, its going to be annoying. But you get lower temps and overclockability

2) Open air:
Better cooling, somewhat lower noise when customizing fans and greater overclocking potential because AIO board.

Cons:
Heat might be circulated all around the case.

Personally I have a R9 Nano, that vents heat in two directions only (front and rear) and the rest of the case seems unaffected completely from its influence.

You could try using an expandable AIO to make everything completely silent, while not overclocking that much.
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post #1689 of 2696
Here are my results, showing how much does the GPU impact motherboard and CPU temperatures.



Valley benchmarks produces the most heat and revs up the fan faster for GPU.
iRay render produces the highest temperatures for the CPU ( I believe x264 will produce similar results)

So with the iRay benchmark only, CPU temps go from 24 > 64C. Motherboard 36 > 45C

Using iRay benchmark along with Valley scene, CPU temps go 24 > 69C and GPU is unaffected. Motherboard goes 36 > 52C

TLDR :
Using R9 Nano increases CPU temps by 5C and motherboard temps by 7C in SG13


I tried Max Payne 3 and iRay as well (using 2C/4 threads) and CPU temp reached 70C after a while too.

Conclusion
Blower Recommended, hybrid affected case/mobo/cpu temps, standard graphics cards will be much worse.
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post #1690 of 2696
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hi guys

I bought this awesome little case a few days ago and the complete build is

i5 4440
r9 380 nitro
ssd 840 Evo 120 gb
Corsair sf600

what is the best way to Mount the psu ? I first mounted it with the fan facing the cpu cooler but I don't know if it's the best way to optimize the airflow tongue.gif

and, second question... I couldn't fit my WD green 3,5" HDD because the r9 power connectors would interfere with the hdd plate... Can I fit a hgst travelstar somewhere on the bottom ?

u have a non ref gpu. heat will be dumped into the case. your psu with bottom intake will absorb heat within the case. while this will help your cpu temps, it comes at the expense of heat to your psu. there's no software i know that measures psu heat so it's not something u can monitor.

A few pages earlier, someone posted a bottom intake psu setup. It works for him as his gpu is a blower/ref type. so the bulk of the heat gets exhausted out of the case. that would not affect the psu that much.

of course, these are fine details and your psu is not going to break down anytime soon. but truth is you're making it hotter. so generally, most will mount it with intake facing up considering most use non-ref cards.
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