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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
  • 93% (238)
    Yes
  • 6% (16)
    No
254 Total Votes  
post #1731 of 2694
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Originally Posted by specfreq View Post

I've been thinking about a case mod on the SG13.

Here's an example




Are there any downsides and compromises you can see? Obviously, there would need to be a radiator sized hole and grommet on the top and the GPU mounting bracket would be a challenge. Might be a 2 monitor limit, depending GPU's DVI ports location and the final position of the radiator.

Of course, for some, this may defeat the purpose of owning an 11.5ltr case, but you guys seems to know the most about it. Just an idea for now, perhaps is there a far better case around 12 liters that can accommodate a GPU AIO cooler.

http://imgur.com/gallery/T0thW

Kinda similar case.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
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post #1732 of 2694
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Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post

http://imgur.com/gallery/T0thW

Kinda similar case.
Core 500 is 19L. This is only 11L.
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Originally Posted by specfreq View Post

I've been thinking about a case mod on the SG13.

Here's an example




Are there any downsides and compromises you can see? Obviously, there would need to be a radiator sized hole and grommet on the top and the GPU mounting bracket would be a challenge. Might be a 2 monitor limit, depending GPU's DVI ports location and the final position of the radiator.

Of course, for some, this may defeat the purpose of owning an 11.5ltr case, but you guys seems to know the most about it. Just an idea for now, perhaps is there a far better case around 12 liters that can accommodate a GPU AIO cooler.

the SG13 fits an AIO cooled GPU. U don't need a case mod for it.
post #1733 of 2694
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Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post

http://imgur.com/gallery/T0thW

Kinda similar case.

The Core 500 is 19L compared to 11L for the SG13. Definitely not similar in size for sure. Not even close.
post #1734 of 2694
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Originally Posted by Mack42 View Post

Is this your system? Looks pretty neat. But I guess far from quiet? Will require quite high rpm on that fan, and I think the Fractal pump is known to be noisy.
not mine, its from someone a few posts back.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1494564/silverstone-sugo-sg13-mini-itx-owners-club/1600_50#post_25161401

and no, when did noctua fans ever became loud?
radiator efficiency isn't about how loud the fan is, its how thick it is and how dense the fins are.
overall the surface area is what matters most, thicker = more fin surface, less dense = less pressure required.
post #1735 of 2694
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Originally Posted by trento View Post

The Core 500 is 19L compared to 11L for the SG13. Definitely not similar in size for sure. Not even close.

Its similar size in the sense, that it will also fit in a medium sized duffel bag and therefore offers the same level of portability that the SG-13 offers. And be able to add more cooling options.
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ITX Powerhouse
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AMD FX 8350  Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 Asus 7970 ROG Matrix Platinum Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
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post #1736 of 2694
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Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post

Its similar size in the sense, that it will also fit in a medium sized duffel bag and therefore offers the same level of portability that the SG-13 offers. And be able to add more cooling options.
Not really, it's almost twice as big.
post #1737 of 2694
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

not mine, its from someone a few posts back.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1494564/silverstone-sugo-sg13-mini-itx-owners-club/1600_50#post_25161401

and no, when did noctua fans ever became loud?
radiator efficiency isn't about how loud the fan is, its how thick it is and how dense the fins are.
overall the surface area is what matters most, thicker = more fin surface, less dense = less pressure required.

Noctua fans can become loud given high enough rpm, just as any fan. I have one myself, the one that comes with the nh-l9i. Becomes loud around 1500rpm.

I know the science of water cooling. The less surface area, the higher fan rpm is needed to dissipate the heat. That's why water cooling is loud in small cases, because hard to fit big enough radiators.
post #1738 of 2694
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Originally Posted by Mack42 View Post

Noctua fans can become loud given high enough rpm, just as any fan. I have one myself, the one that comes with the nh-l9i. Becomes loud around 1500rpm.

I know the science of water cooling. The less surface area, the higher fan rpm is needed to dissipate the heat. That's why water cooling is loud in small cases, because hard to fit big enough radiators.
good point, but you can adjust it's RPM.

*shrugs* theres plenty of space for a better, thicker rad.

post #1739 of 2694
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post

Its similar size in the sense, that it will also fit in a medium sized duffel bag and therefore offers the same level of portability that the SG-13 offers. And be able to add more cooling options.

this point is relevant if the bulk of buyers looking for a small case are concerned with placing their cases in duffel bags with more cooling options.
post #1740 of 2694
Hi everyone.

I've got a rather specific question in relation to the SG13.

Due to the fact that Samsung 950 pro m.2 drives get rather hot (throttling speeds in some scenarios), and most, if not all Mini-ITX motherboards place the m.2 slot on the reverse side of the motherboard, I am looking to jerry-rig some heatsinks to the m.2 drive that will conduct heat to the underside of the SG13 case.

In essence, I will be applying TIM to the chips on the 950 pro, adding some copper shims (1mm thick) and then some 2mm thick thermal grizzly pads. A similar application, for reference, was done here: http://linipc.com/blogs/news/65282629-samsung-950-pro-review-thermal-throttling-solved (See bottom of page)

Now - what I want to do is make sure I've got the right measurements. I don't yet have the case, and so I was wondering if someone could tell me the amount in mm the motherboard is elevated from the base of the case due to the standoffs. This will allow me to expand my thermal solution to ensure it touches the case's bottom surface, allowing for maximum heat dissipation for the m.2 drive.

Thanks!
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