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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
  • 93% (238)
    Yes
  • 6% (16)
    No
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post #1821 of 2702
Does the h80i v2 fit, or are the tubes too stiff?
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post #1822 of 2702
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Originally Posted by miahallen View Post

Geez...with the waterblock it opens up quite a bit of space next to the GPU. I wonder if you could fit a 3.5" drive in there? Nice builds...which one is more powerful tongue.gif
I wish they would make a single-slot SG13! We need smaller cases!
post #1823 of 2702
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Originally Posted by Paulie AU View Post

After a good long game of BF4, with room temp at 23 degrees C I averaged about 55 degrees on GPU and 62 degrees on CPU. Currently both my fan and pump run at 1200rpm. Playing something like Forza the GPU runs at about 44 degrees and CPU mid 50's.

I currently have the CPU running 42x @ 1.190v.

I am intending to add a EK Vardar 2200rpm fan. I don't expect to use the top end but given it can run at 40% in the specs I am happy with 880rpm as minimum.

Also I guess photo with the PSU is in order

KtXw04k.jpg

This is nice, i am currently considering WC my SG13, i have an i3 6100 and gtx 970. Maybe you or someone else could help.

I have the cpu being cooled by an H60 and i am considering adding the EK block that i have for my 970 to the loop, powering all with the H60 pump and an alphacool 60mm rad, is this doable? can the pump provide just enough flow for 1 rad and 2 blocks? i will be doing this with the stock 1/4 inch ID tubing...
post #1824 of 2702
I am thinking of adding a 120mm exhaust next to the gpu. I will see if a vardar makes enough of a difference with better static pressure and airflow.

The thrasher only has a 250gb ssd and a 1tb HDD. So only 250gb more storage than the little one. The 3x180 rad keeps thinks nice and cool.
post #1825 of 2702
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Originally Posted by miahallen View Post

So, my new parts arrived and I put the system together...two problems:
  1. The MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G does not fit very well
    • First off, the two 8-pin PEG connectors are positions so that the wires are squished in the front frame of the case.
    • Secondly, The card is too tall to allow space to properly install the 3.5" drive.
  2. The USB ports gave me huge headaches while trying to install. They would not recognize my KB/M. If you run into this issue, you can use PS/2 port emulation in the BIOS. I had to use this until the USB3.0 drivers were properly installed or the OS would not acknowledge my KB/M

The system is now up and running and I'm very happy with the results:
For overclocking it was easy-peasy....just set the XMP profile, added CPU voltage offset to +100mV and set the multiplier to x45...badda-bing-badda-boom!


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Originally Posted by ras2a View Post

That's great news if that's the case? I need to check my case out and see what free space I have available, but if you can fit your card then it does sound like the MSI 1070 X will fit (279mm). What specific model of card do you have?

Cheers
Ras

Here are a couple pics:









As you can see, the space is just too tight for comfort for thei GPU. The motherboard is getting tweaked quite a bit. I'd have to cut the case a bit to be comfortable with this. But seeing as how Gigabyte just annouced the 1070 mini, I'll just upgrade to that thumb.gif
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post #1826 of 2702
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Originally Posted by marchettiOC View Post

This is nice, i am currently considering WC my SG13, i have an i3 6100 and gtx 970. Maybe you or someone else could help.

I have the cpu being cooled by an H60 and i am considering adding the EK block that i have for my 970 to the loop, powering all with the H60 pump and an alphacool 60mm rad, is this doable? can the pump provide just enough flow for 1 rad and 2 blocks? i will be doing this with the stock 1/4 inch ID tubing...

I think the xt45 is sort of the limit due to tubing but it could be worked with.

Not sure about the pump and modding it but I previously had a Fractal pump running a 6700k and 680OC in a loop ok. It had 2x 360mm rads though so lower flow was countered by moar rad. I know the phonya pump I am running in my sg is much stronger than the fractal aio pump.

This is the room on the non GPU side. Nice room for tubing which wouldn't be possible in my build with a 60mm rad.

mVbDfzY.jpg

This is a better view of my pump position. The extended inlet on the phobya 220 is a bit annoying as it really could be shorter. I considered cutting it but wasn't sure I could achieve a proper square finish and was worried about leaking so left it be. If I ever empty the case out I will probably take to the case with my dremel so the pump fits through the gpu hole a little better.

KhVmWuM.jpg

And just to finish things off here is the custom back bracket I needed to mount the Corsair SF450 due to Corsair not supplying one like Silverstone. Red to match the colour theme I will never see. Also red because the PSU bracket in the Lian Li is red..... thumb.gif

CqJ7sCe.jpg
Edited by Paulie AU - 7/14/16 at 3:13am
post #1827 of 2702
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Originally Posted by marchettiOC View Post

So a little update, i received everything yesterday and couldnt resist to build it.

everything went supper smoth but when i loaded it up for a little while the fan on the little SFX was a jet engine, of course i had planned for it to be an exhaust but i guess the sfx is not very good at it.

I ended up flipping it and sound was much less annoying, with that i called it a day.

Now, this morning i had to do some updates and what not and when i checked HW monitor i noticed that the little i3 wont come down from the low 40's when on the desktop... i launched the RB6 siege benchmark cause its the only one i have at the moment and to my surprise i didnt go above 53 degrees after several runs, same as the GPU (im using my current MSI 960), however i dont understand if this is normal for the idle temps to be that high. Did i screw up my TIM application maybe?

I cant pinpoint the exact moment when i noticed but i am assuming that now that the PSU is not pulling hot air out of the case the temps inside are much warmer (you can actually tell just by getting near the side vent.)

I am eager to hear your thoughts on this, i expected hotter temps and to be honest the temps are actually not bad at all but that idle is bugging me a bit.


my specs are below just in case someone missed my first post

i3 6100
corsair H60
z170 itx fatality
8gb team pro dark 3000
silverstone sfx 450 gold
850 evo

another thing that i am curious and i never really knew is what are the temps or acceptable temps for the rest of the components, like mobo, SSD and such??
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Originally Posted by Paulie AU View Post

I think the xt45 is sort of the limit due to tubing but it could be worked with.

Not sure about the pump and modding it but I previously had a Fractal pump running a 6700k and 680OC in a loop ok. It had 2x 360mm rads though so lower flow was countered by moar rad. I know the phonya pump I am running in my sg is much stronger than the fractal aio pump.

This is the room on the non GPU side. Nice room for tubing which wouldn't be possible in my build with a 60mm rad.

mVbDfzY.jpg

Just one more question, why did you chose to mount the rad horizontally vs vertically, i mean with the ports to the top of the case instead of pointing to the non gpu side?, is this to allow for the SSD bracket? otherwise it should fit right?
post #1828 of 2702
Hi, I'm building my SG13 that I wanted to show off here (so I can be part of the club), some really good inspiration in here. However, before I finish I have reached a blocker that I haven't been able to solve regarding where to plug the power pins for the water cooler and the fans, and there are many different suggestions online so I wanted to ask for help.

So I have a
ASRock B85M-ITX Motherboard (with 4-pin CPU_FAN and 4-pin CHA_FAN)
Corsair H60 Water cooler (pump has a 3-pin connector and fan has a 4-pin connector)
Fractal Design Fan Dynamic GP-12 (with 3-pin power connector)
Silverstone CPF02 (One-to-Three PWM Fan Splitter) Fan Splitter since the board only have the 2 set of pins.

Initially I only had the 1 fan from the water cooler, but since I had an extra 120mm fan that I had bought previous to getting the H60 I thought why not use it for a push pull configuration.
When installing the water cooler I just plugged in the pump (3-pin) to the CPU_FAN and the radiator fan (4-pin) to the CHA_FAN but I read later on that doing that can damage the pump since CPU_FAN gives a variable power to the pump, additionally the manual isn't helpful at all, the manual states that you should "connect the pump power connector to any available 3-pin or 4-pin fan on the motherboard".

To make things worst, now that I added the second fan for push pull, now I don't know which pin to split and where to connect Pump vs Fans, being also that one of the fans have 4-pins and the other has only 3.

As a last thing the splitter splits the pins from a 4-pin to another 4-pin and a 3 pin like in the following picture, so now I'm even more confused on what to do and searching online have just confused me more.


I'm of the mind to hold on asking right away and always search and try everything myself since eventually you always find an answer online, but I've been really stuck here for days, any help on how to connect this cables will be profoundly and greatly appreciated smile.gif
Looking forward to finish the build and share here smile.gif

Here is my build in progress:



H60 Manual
https://cc.cnetcontent.com/inlinecontent/mediaserver/corsair/061/d8f/061d8f63bce846c79025d69a0a91f4bc/original.pdf

Case Fan:
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/casefans/dynamic-series/dynamic-gp-12
Edited by sgsg - 7/14/16 at 12:05pm
post #1829 of 2702
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Originally Posted by Paulie AU View Post

I think the xt45 is sort of the limit due to tubing but it could be worked with.

Not sure about the pump and modding it but I previously had a Fractal pump running a 6700k and 680OC in a loop ok. It had 2x 360mm rads though so lower flow was countered by moar rad. I know the phonya pump I am running in my sg is much stronger than the fractal aio pump.

This is the room on the non GPU side. Nice room for tubing which wouldn't be possible in my build with a 60mm rad.

mVbDfzY.jpg

This is a better view of my pump position. The extended inlet on the phobya 220 is a bit annoying as it really could be shorter. I considered cutting it but wasn't sure I could achieve a proper square finish and was worried about leaking so left it be. If I ever empty the case out I will probably take to the case with my dremel so the pump fits through the gpu hole a little better.

KhVmWuM.jpg

And just to finish things off here is the custom back bracket I needed to mount the Corsair SF450 due to Corsair not supplying one like Silverstone. Red to match the colour theme I will never see. Also red because the PSU bracket in the Lian Li is red..... thumb.gif

CqJ7sCe.jpg

Is it just me or do you have matte coating/paint on your sugo case?
post #1830 of 2702
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Originally Posted by sgsg View Post

Hi, I'm building my SG13 that I wanted to show off here (so I can be part of the club), some really good inspiration in here. However, before I finish I have reached a blocker that I haven't been able to solve regarding where to plug the power pins for the water cooler and the fans, and there are many different suggestions online so I wanted to ask for help.

So I have a
ASRock B85M-ITX Motherboard (with 4-pin CPU_FAN and 4-pin CHA_FAN)
Corsair H60 Water cooler (pump has a 3-pin connector and fan has a 4-pin connector)
Fractal Design Fan Dynamic GP-12 (with 3-pin power connector)
Silverstone CPF02 (One-to-Three PWM Fan Splitter) Fan Splitter since the board only have the 2 set of pins.

Initially I only had the 1 fan from the water cooler, but since I had an extra 120mm fan that I had bought previous to getting the H60 I thought why not use it for a push pull configuration.
When installing the water cooler I just plugged in the pump (3-pin) to the CPU_FAN and the radiator fan (4-pin) to the CHA_FAN but I read later on that doing that can damage the pump since CPU_FAN gives a variable power to the pump, additionally the manual isn't helpful at all, the manual states that you should "connect the pump power connector to any available 3-pin or 4-pin fan on the motherboard".

To make things worst, now that I added the second fan for push pull, now I don't know which pin to split and where to connect Pump vs Fans, being also that one of the fans have 4-pins and the other has only 3.

As a last thing the splitter splits the pins from a 4-pin to another 4-pin and a 3 pin like in the following picture, so now I'm even more confused on what to do and searching online have just confused me more.

I'm of the mind to hold on asking right away and always search and try everything myself since eventually you always find an answer online, but I've been really stuck here for days, any help on how to connect this cables will be profoundly and greatly appreciated smile.gif
Looking forward to finish the build and share here smile.gif

Keep the pump on CPU_FAN, but in BIOS set it to full speed so that it supplies a constant voltage and does not try to vary it.

Also... that particular board doesn't support variable voltage control anyway as far as I know, does it?

As for the splitter, the missing pin is for reading the RPM. Because you have 2 fans, only one of them will be reported back to the board. So in short, it doesn't matter which fan goes to which output of the splitter.
Edited by wywywywy - 7/14/16 at 3:33pm
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