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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
  • 93% (242)
    Yes
  • 6% (16)
    No
258 Total Votes  
post #2121 of 2741
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Originally Posted by hungpig83 View Post

Hey guys, I have less than 24 hours to decide whether buying this case or not. So, I have some question need to be clarified.
1, Can SG13 carry non-modular ATX PSU , with intel stock cooler, 1x3.5mm + 1x2.5mm HDD ?
2, My Card Dimension is around 24 x 12.1 x 4 (cm), will it fit ?


1. Would be a super cramped build. Silverstone recommends 140mm psu due to the cable connections. Is there a particular power supply you have in mind?
2. What is the card exactly? I do not foresee any issues fitting that card into the case with those measurements.

edit: the card, is it a dual slot or 2.5 slot card?
post #2122 of 2741
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Originally Posted by MashedPotato1 View Post

1. Would be a super cramped build. Silverstone recommends 140mm psu due to the cable connections. Is there a particular power supply you have in mind?
2. What is the card exactly? I do not foresee any issues fitting that card into the case with those measurements.

edit: the card, is it a dual slot or 2.5 slot card?
Hi MashedPotato1, I'm planning to build for my friend a case as a gift.
The GPU am going to use is XFX Radeon RX 470 RS Triple X (dual slot) and the PSU is Thermaltake TR2 S 550W.
Most of the components are on the way, only the case which I want to use is core v1 is not in stock.Therefore, I am thinking of sg13 as a replacement.I think it never is a problem of messy wire around, as long as the PSU and the 3.5 HHD fit in the case

Edited by hungpig83 - 10/11/16 at 2:35am
post #2123 of 2741
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Originally Posted by hungpig83 View Post

Hi MashedPotato1, I'm planning to build for my friend a case as a gift.
The GPU am going to use is XFX Radeon RX 470 RS Triple X (dual slot) and the PSU is Thermaltake TR2 S 550W.
Most of the components are on the way, only the case which I want to use is core v1 is not in stock.Therefore, I am thinking of sg13 as a replacement.I think it never is a problem of messy wire around, as long as the PSU and the 3.5 HHD fit in the case

would be a tight squeeze to fit it all in but would go in there. the psu and hdd would be close together.
the gpu would fit fine if thats the one used

I used to own a core v1, and moved down to the sg13. One thing i liked about the V1 was the ease of cable management, but cooling in that case is so limited for its size and a lot space and potential wasted in that case. A lot of retailers where i am seem to have replaced it with the Suppressor F1 so that might be the situation where you are also.
post #2124 of 2741
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Originally Posted by MashedPotato1 View Post

would be a tight squeeze to fit it all in but would go in there. the psu and hdd would be close together.
the gpu would fit fine if thats the one used

I used to own a core v1, and moved down to the sg13. One thing i liked about the V1 was the ease of cable management, but cooling in that case is so limited for its size and a lot space and potential wasted in that case. A lot of retailers where i am seem to have replaced it with the Suppressor F1 so that might be the situation where you are also.
I think I will go with SG13 since it fit and available. I cant find any Suppressor F1 case around my place.Anyways, thank you very much biggrin.gif
post #2125 of 2741
What are your thoughts on fitting the 95W AMD near-silent stock CPU cooler? It is 60mm tall. I plan on using an ATX PSU. What clearance between fan and CPU can I epxect?
post #2126 of 2741
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Originally Posted by anak85 View Post

What are your thoughts on fitting the 95W AMD near-silent stock CPU cooler? It is 60mm tall. I plan on using an ATX PSU. What clearance between fan and CPU can I epxect?

I have a 60mm heat sink in mine, it fits with about 1 to 2mm gap to the PSU. Good if you have your PSU and heat sink fan both drawing air up from the mobo, no so good if you have the PSU drawing air from the top

Not sure how well a pull config works on a stock cooler tho...
Edited by xpeterson - 10/12/16 at 11:43am
post #2127 of 2741
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Originally Posted by xpeterson View Post

I have a 60mm heat sink in mine, it fits with about 1 to 2mm gap to the PSU. Good if you have your PSU and heat sink fan both drawing air up from the mobo, no so good if you have the PSU drawing air from the top

Not sure how well a pull config works on a stock cooler tho...

hmm.. it definitely doesn't sound ideal.

I am considering the Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B as an alternative. That has a height of 58mm. Not exactly a huge improvement of the spacing between the PSU and the cooler. What would you choose if you were on a tight budget?

Also, what are you using / what temps are you getting with your system?

Edit: Other people said that the PSU facing downwards is a terrible idea. Do you think they had the fans working against eachother and not with the CPU fan in a pull configuration?
Edited by anak85 - 10/12/16 at 2:45pm
post #2128 of 2741
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Originally Posted by anak85 View Post

hmm.. it definitely doesn't sound ideal.

I am considering the Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B as an alternative. That has a height of 58mm. Not exactly a huge improvement of the spacing between the PSU and the cooler. What would you choose if you were on a tight budget?

Also, what are you using / what temps are you getting with your system?

Edit: Other people said that the PSU facing downwards is a terrible idea. Do you think they had the fans working against eachother and not with the CPU fan in a pull configuration?

Not sure, but having fans work against each other with the little clearance there is sounds like a terrible idea. While I was never able to get a consensus online when I was shopping as to "fresh air PSU/downdraft CPU" vs both pulling air up from the mobo area, my personal experience of it has been fine with the pull config.

Im running an AXP-200 (no cpu fan) with an ATX PSU (Corsair CX500M) that has a fan thats always running, pulling air thru the heat sink. Temps stay under 50C in games, run up to high 50s when running stress tests on my non-OC i5 5500

I was considering the scythe as well when I was shopping, seems like a good choice from everything Ive read about it
Edited by xpeterson - 10/12/16 at 3:28pm
post #2129 of 2741
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Originally Posted by xpeterson View Post

Not sure, but having fans work against each other with the little clearance there is sounds like a terrible idea. While I was never able to get a consensus online when I was shopping as to "fresh air PSU/downdraft CPU" vs both pulling air up from the mobo area, my personal experience of it has been fine with the pull config.

Im running an AXP-200 (no cpu fan) with an ATX PSU (Corsair CX500M) that has a fan thats always running, pulling air thru the heat sink. Temps stay under 50C in games, run up to high 50s when running stress tests on my non-OC i5 5500

I was considering the scythe as well when I was shopping, seems like a good choice from everything Ive read about it

That sounds like an interesting solution. I am planning on using the CX450M PSU and didn't realize it doesn't have a silent mode like other PSUs from Corsair. In my other build I have a SF450 and I have never seen the fan turn on.

According to Johnny Guru the PSU fan runs at around 800rpm up to 75% load. Do you have a similar experience? Having the CPU cooler fan at a fixed speed is no issue in your opinion? Or is there space to mount a fan below the CPU heatsink?

Edit: Just realized there is no space below the heat sink...

Do you have a picture of the spacing between the PSU and the heat sink you could send me? I'd be very intersted to see the clearance...
Edited by anak85 - 10/13/16 at 12:21am
post #2130 of 2741
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Originally Posted by anak85 View Post

That sounds like an interesting solution. I am planning on using the CX450M PSU and didn't realize it doesn't have a silent mode like other PSUs from Corsair. In my other build I have a SF450 and I have never seen the fan turn on.

According to Johnny Guru the PSU fan runs at around 800rpm up to 75% load. Do you have a similar experience? Having the CPU cooler fan at a fixed speed is no issue in your opinion? Or is there space to mount a fan below the CPU heatsink?

Edit: Just realized there is no space below the heat sink...

Do you have a picture of the spacing between the PSU and the heat sink you could send me? I'd be very intersted to see the clearance...




The PSU is never idle, but it does spin up once the computer starts going under load, which works nicely. Im very happy with how it turned out, I wanted to use as much room under the PSU for heat sink surface area as possible. One thing, the heat sink needs to be directly below the PSU fan intake, and to get it that way I actually had to drill some holes in the back of my case to fit the AXP-200 in that particular configuration with the mobo im using (EVGA z170 stinger).



If youre going this route, proceed at your own risk, Im not sure how the results will be affected if anything is changed (for instance if the heat pipes and the first fin on the heat sink werent facing front and exposed to fresh air from the front case fan). That being said, temps seem low enough that there may be some room for divergence.

Otherwise, going with a CPU fan is a good way to have a more of a guaranteed result, tho again use some common sense with airflow. Make sure theres a good way for fresh air to get in and for hot air to get out.
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