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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
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post #2421 of 2483
Anyone successfully air-cooled a 7700k in this case without any thermal throttling (stays under 100C)?

Thinking about upgrading to a 7700k, but a bit worried about the temps.

Will probably be cooling with a Be Quiet Shadow Rock LP and would like to stick with air cooling.
Edited by LikeTheRazor - 4/2/17 at 1:23am
post #2422 of 2483
Well, I have a 6700k which has about the same heat output. It's cooled with an NH-L12 Cooler and reaches about 84C max.
post #2423 of 2483
I use a 7700k (stock, it's fast enough) with a scythe shuriken rev 2 (LP air cooler). The max I've seen during gaming is probably 80ish but it averages 70-75. I'm also using a blower 1070 to prevent adding any additional heat into the case. I haven't had any issues with overheating or anything like that.
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post #2424 of 2483
My first post here. I'm lucky to stumble upon this thread, as I'm looking to build a system using this SG13 case. I'm looking to use existing an existing CPU cooler & fan:

Silverstone AR06
Corsair ML120 PRO LED or Noctua NF-P12

My h/w is as follows:
MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC
Samsung Evo 960 (1TB)
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB)
CORSAIR SF600 with ATX bracket

I've yet to source a GPU (GTX 1070).

- Should I opt for a blower style fan?
- Should I setup the PSU fan side up?
- Should the front fan be an Intake?
- Would I be better off with an AIO CPU cooler?

I'm looking to use this mainly for web surfing, photoshop, some gaming and VR in the future.

Thanks for your help.
Edited by sabesh - 4/4/17 at 2:55am
post #2425 of 2483
Quote:
Originally Posted by LikeTheRazor View Post

Anyone successfully air-cooled a 7700k in this case without any thermal throttling (stays under 100C)?

Thinking about upgrading to a 7700k, but a bit worried about the temps.

Will probably be cooling with a Be Quiet Shadow Rock LP and would like to stick with air cooling.

Check out my previous posts, I undervolted, - 1.25v runs super cool and quiet. I love it
post #2426 of 2483
Quote:
Originally Posted by sabesh View Post

My first post here. I'm lucky to stumble upon this thread, as I'm looking to build a system using this SG13 case. I'm looking to use existing an existing CPU cooler & fan:

Silverstone AR06
Corsair ML120 PRO LED or Noctua NF-P12

My h/w is as follows:
MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC
Samsung Evo 960 (1TB)
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB)
CORSAIR SF600 with ATX bracket

I've yet to source a GPU (GTX 1070).

- Should I opt for a blower style fan?
- Should I setup the PSU fan side up?
- Should the front fan be an Intake?
- Would I be better off with an AIO CPU cooler?

I'm looking to use this mainly for web surfing, photoshop, some gaming and VR in the future.

Thanks for your help.

-Most people recommend blower style GPUs yes. I personally use an open air 1070 and it works fine for me, but I planned and customized my case for it.
-Depends on how you have your CPU fan configured. Generally not a good idea to have the CPU and PSU fans fighting each other with little clearance, tho it might be less of an issue with an SFX PSU and a good case fan bringing in lots of air.
-Depends on the orientation of the other components. If the PSU is facing down (drawing air from inside the case) I would definitely have the front fan as an intake. Otherwise, as long as you understand the basics of positive and negative pressure in cases, I could see either way working.
-Define "better." Lower temps, probably, yes.

Basically plan out your airflow. I personally use a system that draws air from the front, across the mobo and up thru the CPU heat sink, into the PSU and out the back; and its worked out fine, open air GPU and all (like I said, with some modifications to ensure proper airflow). Playing in VR the CPU hovers in the 50s, GPU in the 60s, peaking in the 70s.
post #2427 of 2483
@ xpeterson - thank you!
post #2428 of 2483
Replaced my R9 Nano with the GTX 1070 Dual OC, OMG the difference in noise is unbelievable

I didnt know reference coolers were SO bad. 9.45 inches btw:







Here is the GTX 980 Strix which is 11.36 inches

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post #2429 of 2483
Hey Guys,

I'm a new owner of a SUGO SG13BW and just wanted to drop in here smile.gif

I put together the following build:
PSU: Corsair SF600
MOBO: Asus Z170i Pro Gaming with the WiFi/BT card swapped to Intel 8265 (because the Atheros one sucks)
CPU: I5-6600k
CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-L12 push/pull
RAM: DDR4 G.Skill RipJaws V 3000Mhz 2x8GB
SSD: M.2 Samsung 960 Pro 512GB
Storage: HGST 4TB
GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X - just sold it, EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 ICX on it's way

Some comments on the build:
Had to apply the case cut-out discussed in this thread to allow the 1070 to go all the way to the front mesh with enough space for the 6pin connectors. It was a very tight fit, I was basically unable to mount the front dust filter because I'd have to really squeeze the front panel to the GPU and I was not comfortable with that.
The EVGA 1080 FTW2 is a few milometers shorter, so apart from increased performance, it's gonna solve that issue for me.



For the CPU cooling, I found that the Noctua NH-L12 was the tallest one I could squeeze in with a push/pull configuration, but only under 2 conditions:
1) SFF PSU (adds 3cm to the maximum compatible cooler height)
2) Swapping the stock Noctua top fan on the cooler with a slimmer alternative - I used the CryoRig XT140 which is an over-sized fan with a width of 13mm

I had to mount the XT140 to the cooler using plastic bands because the over-sized format made it impossible to use the metal pins, but it worked out fine. Overall, I have a few millimeters of clearance between the fan and the PSU which is fine. The PSU is mounted to intake from the top and exhaust from the back, so it's not interfering with the air flow inside the case. I use the left over 120mm Noctua cooler as front intake.




CPU temperatures are very good - around 35C under Windows/normal usage at 23C ambient. Gaming is below 50C, Prime stress testing doesn't go above 60C.
This is with a slight OC of 3850MHz - so basically around TurboMode clocks - which I managed to hit on a slight undervolt (1.1V in bios, sligthly lower IRL).

Build problems:
I had to reassemble the rig to mount the M2 drive and the front panel USB connector refused to be removed from the motherboard. I tried tugging and squeezing it in every conceivable way and it didn't want to detach.

In the end, both the mother board connector plastic and the front panel connector plastic give in faster...
As you can see on the pic, the plastic from the front panel connector detached and remained in the motherboard socket mad.gif Even when taking that whole part off the motherboard I was not able to detach those two even using pliers (!). This is beyond retarded and the 1st time I see something like this in my 15 years of building rigs.



I will probably take this to SilverStone support and hope they can remedy the situation in some way by at least sending me new USB connector cable...
This still won't fix the connector on my mobo though rolleyes.gif
Edited by kyjol - 4/15/17 at 10:41am
post #2430 of 2483
Quote:
Originally Posted by ApplesOfEpicnes View Post

Well, I have a 6700k which has about the same heat output. It's cooled with an NH-L12 Cooler and reaches about 84C max.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Waleh View Post

I use a 7700k (stock, it's fast enough) with a scythe shuriken rev 2 (LP air cooler). The max I've seen during gaming is probably 80ish but it averages 70-75. I'm also using a blower 1070 to prevent adding any additional heat into the case. I haven't had any issues with overheating or anything like that.

Thanks, I tried it out and it worked ok!

Did prime95 + furmark for 20 minutes and the i7-7700k hit 95C max, which is fine by me because it's 5C below throttle limit biggrin.gif . My GTX 1080 hit 70C max which is also below throttle limit.

Continuously impressed by the cooling ability of this tiny little case. It beats far bigger and more expensive cases somehow.
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