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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
  • 93% (238)
    Yes
  • 6% (16)
    No
254 Total Votes  
post #2571 of 2694
Just like airplane, back in the days, people afraid it might crashed. Now, planes shouldn't crash unless the pilot deliberately making human error or suffer ultra rare technical issues.
Bumps and rough ride wont damage your AIO cooler, its more durable than you motherboard. I often took this case to lan parties by motorcycle. Stuffed in a large backpack, went through lot of bad road condition and bumps.
IF, IF it DOES leak, the warranty covers the entire system, not just the cooler.

Much better performance than air solution (using this case), more silent performance, no additional maintenance compared with standard fan/air cooler. Give it a try guys thumb.gif

If you still going for air cooler, read the review that compared them to stock cooler. You will see it doesn't make much difference in performance than stock except more silent fan and more $$, which in my opinion aren't worth the penny.

Also as far as I remember, 140mm fan won't block the usb. 140mm radiator might depending on the orientation.
post #2572 of 2694
you guys just convince me on going with a water cooler now and not later. Now do I have to go back and read hundred of pages or do we have a winner?

I be using the Zotac 1070 mini so it should leave plenty of space up front for the Rad.
Card Length 210mm x 122mm
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post #2573 of 2694
Quote:
Originally Posted by azdesign View Post

Just like airplane, back in the days, people afraid it might crashed. Now, planes shouldn't crash unless the pilot deliberately making human error or suffer ultra rare technical issues.
Bumps and rough ride wont damage your AIO cooler, its more durable than you motherboard. I often took this case to lan parties by motorcycle. Stuffed in a large backpack, went through lot of bad road condition and bumps.
IF, IF it DOES leak, the warranty covers the entire system, not just the cooler.

Much better performance than air solution (using this case), more silent performance, no additional maintenance compared with standard fan/air cooler. Give it a try guys thumb.gif

If you still going for air cooler, read the review that compared them to stock cooler. You will see it doesn't make much difference in performance than stock except more silent fan and more $$, which in my opinion aren't worth the penny.

Also as far as I remember, 140mm fan won't block the usb. 140mm radiator might depending on the orientation.

No game I have yet tried has pushed my CPU past the 50s, and I've ran most of the games people use as benchmarks. Not sure what stock coolers in this case are suppose to provide, but that would surprise me.

Also a question: how heavy did your system end up since you are also carrying your case around? Honestly mine feels a bit like a brick, which is another resason I avoided liquids. Seems it ended up heavier than I wanted anyways tho
post #2574 of 2694
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Originally Posted by cloudbuster View Post

you guys just convince me on going with a water cooler now and not later. Now do I have to go back and read hundred of pages or do we have a winner?

I be using the Zotac 1070 mini so it should leave plenty of space up front for the Rad.
Card Length 210mm x 122mm

People are using 120mm rads because it is safe for GPU and USB panel. 140mm rads however, might not fit along with USB panel depending on the orientation of how you mount it.
Rads have caps on both ends (one side have 2 pipes attached); If the caps fit the case in horizontal position (caps facing left and right), then you can use your USB port. Otherwise, you have to mount it in vertical position (caps facing up and down).

My recommendation for you is to use 120mm rads with 2 fans for push and pulling air and switch to longer graphic card for better thermal performance.
If you want to use 140mm rads, note that big chance you wont be able to use you USB port.
If you don't overclock, 120mm is more than enough, it will give you silent and cool temps.
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Originally Posted by xpeterson View Post

No game I have yet tried has pushed my CPU past the 50s, and I've ran most of the games people use as benchmarks. Not sure what stock coolers in this case are suppose to provide, but that would surprise me.

Also a question: how heavy did your system end up since you are also carrying your case around? Honestly mine feels a bit like a brick, which is another resason I avoided liquids. Seems it ended up heavier than I wanted anyways tho

It is very heavy and yes, more like carrying bricks. Fortunately, the place where we held lan parties have several monitors to use, so I don't have to bring along my monitor.
For safety, I put a lot of foams around the backpack to help with the bumps. The rads should be fine as it has screws that holds it in place. As long as the case frame isn't damaged, it wont leak.
Also, make sure you tighten the buckle of the backpack so the bottom of the backpack does not touch the seat of the motorcycle (this way, your body also absorb the bumps before it gets into the backpack)
post #2575 of 2694
Huge fan of the case and this thread.

Anyone willing to give me some advice?

Here is my prospective build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4y74cc



I already have the PSU, video card, CPU, SSD, hard drive and just ordered the motherboard.

My concerns are that I have a 3.5" hard drive and 2.5" SSD to get in there, this adds alittle extra challenge to the build. I know others have installed a 3.5" in there so its doable. I am unsure which CPU cooler to go with? Looking for something quiet!
Edited by BrotherAli - 9/22/17 at 3:12pm
post #2576 of 2694
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Originally Posted by BrotherAli View Post

Huge fan of the case and this thread.

Anyone willing to give me some advice?

Here is my prospective build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4y74cc



I already have the PSU, video card, CPU, SSD, hard drive and just ordered the motherboard.

My concerns are that I have a 3.5" hard drive and 2.5" SSD to get in there, this adds alittle extra challenge to the build. I know others have installed a 3.5" in there so its doable. I am unsure which CPU cooler to go with? Looking for something quiet!

If you ask what kind of cooler you should get, most people here will recommend you an AIO, as will I. It perform on par against top-end bulky air cooler which impossible to fit into this case. 120mm AIO can still let you install 3.5 drive and use the usb port. Mount the ssd on the case's floor. Better yet, forget SATA SSD; NVMe SSD offer FAR better performance without taking up any space on the case. The performance difference might not noticeable on daily usage, but in gaming, loading become much much quicker.
post #2577 of 2694
if you aren't going to overclock then an NH-L9 would do the trick, it simplifies the build and opens the front for a fresh air intake.

someone did a test on a NH-L9 with a R7 chip @ 3.5GHz and it managed to hold it around 80°C, but no mention of ambient temps.
considering that the R5 is much cooler it'll be a good option.
post #2578 of 2694
Looking for something
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Originally Posted by azdesign View Post

If you ask what kind of cooler you should get, most people here will recommend you an AIO, as will I. It perform on par against top-end bulky air cooler which impossible to fit into this case. 120mm AIO can still let you install 3.5 drive and use the usb port. Mount the ssd on the case's floor. Better yet, forget SATA SSD; NVMe SSD offer FAR better performance without taking up any space on the case. The performance difference might not noticeable on daily usage, but in gaming, loading become much much quicker.

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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

if you aren't going to overclock then an NH-L9 would do the trick, it simplifies the build and opens the front for a fresh air intake.

someone did a test on a NH-L9 with a R7 chip @ 3.5GHz and it managed to hold it around 80°C, but no mention of ambient temps.
considering that the R5 is much cooler it'll be a good option.

Thank you both for information. If I go with 120mm AIO any suggestions? Quiet is a plus for sure. I will strongly consider changing the fan with an RGB fan, someone used one in a build here and it looked really good. Will be my first AIO.

The fact that it sounds like it will work on paper makes me feel better about pulling the trigger.

My last build, smaller than SG13 and fit 3X3.5", 1X2.5", 2X80mm fans, 1X120mm fan LOL

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/1484977-my-htpc-cooking.html#post26739090
post #2579 of 2694
So the case came today and im thinking about exchanging it. The front panel and top cover are off. Like if I run my finger across the top of the front panel where it meets the top cover the right and left sides not symmetrical on each side, one side is higher than the other.

Anyone else have that happen? I'll add pics in a second. I took the cover off and front panel and put them back on hoping it would change, seemed to have made it better so maybe ill mess with it more when I have the time.
Edited by BrotherAli - 9/27/17 at 2:35pm
post #2580 of 2694
Are hard drives loud in this case? I know that it's mostly dependent on the particular drive, but I am using my computer as a plex server, so I want to leave my computer on over night and my computer will be in my room when I an sleeping.
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