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Poll Results: Are you interested in this new Sugo SG13?

 
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    Yes
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post #571 of 2556
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Looking for the best (at least 80+ Bronze) and quietest modular PSU in the 500-700W range to fit this case.

i'm using CM's V650 ( RS-650-AMAA-G1 ) semi-modular PSU and its pretty quiet, with a length of 140mm.
according to the PSU guide in this forum its one of the better PSUs you can get.
post #572 of 2556
In the optimal configuration of this case, would any of the fans be exhaust? It seems like if we do air cooling, the PSU and front panel fans would be pulling fresh air in, and I believe this case doesn't allow for a rear exhaust?

Is water cooling preferred here?
post #573 of 2556
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Originally Posted by findingthelimit View Post

It seems like if we do air cooling, the PSU and front panel fans would be pulling fresh air in, and I believe this case doesn't allow for a rear exhaust?

Is water cooling preferred here?

That's the setup I went with for my girlfriend's build. Some people have done the PSU exhausting air from the inside, but it may cause your PSU to run hotter, which means a louder fan.

Water cooling can be done, but you can only fit 120mm AIO coolers in there when using a full-sized GPU. Custom loops can be done too, but the space limitations require creative bending or lots of angle fittings. See here.
    
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post #574 of 2556
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That's the setup I went with for my girlfriend's build. Some people have done the PSU exhausting air from the inside, but it may cause your PSU to run hotter, which means a louder fan.

Water cooling can be done, but you can only fit 120mm AIO coolers in there when using a full-sized GPU. Custom loops can be done too, but the space limitations require creative bending or lots of angle fittings. See here.

Is air cooling fairly subpar in this build, though? It seems like given that there's no rear exhaust (given that I'm using the PSU and front 120mm to intake), hot air would get trapped within the case. If you use water cooling, would you use the fan in front as intake or exhaust?
post #575 of 2556
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Is air cooling fairly subpar in this build, though? It seems like given that there's no rear exhaust (given that I'm using the PSU and front 120mm to intake), hot air would get trapped within the case. If you use water cooling, would you use the fan in front as intake or exhaust?

if you're using a pan-cake HSF, like the NH-L9i or NH-L12, using the inverted airflow method would turn your PSU into a direct duct exhaust.
it is far more effective than the down flow and possibly the most ideal setup in an air HSF build.

but yes and no, yes due to water cooling providing better direct cooling to the CPU.
but on the other hand, using water cooling dramatically reduces the airflow on the motherboard components.
post #576 of 2556
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Is air cooling fairly subpar in this build, though? It seems like given that there's no rear exhaust (given that I'm using the PSU and front 120mm to intake), hot air would get trapped within the case. If you use water cooling, would you use the fan in front as intake or exhaust?

Heat will escape "passively" since hot air has higher pressure and colder air outside the case will have lower pressure. The PSU will intake from the top vents and exhaust out the rear if you don't choose to have it intake air from inside the case.

For watercooling, the radiator should always intake cold air regardless of your setup, otherwise you will subject your coolant to the same temp inside your case, which would most likely be much hotter.
    
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post #577 of 2556
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if you're using a pan-cake HSF, like the NH-L9i or NH-L12, using the inverted airflow method would turn your PSU into a direct duct exhaust.
it is far more effective than the down flow and possibly the most ideal setup in an air HSF build.

but yes and no, yes due to water cooling providing better direct cooling to the CPU.
but on the other hand, using water cooling dramatically reduces the airflow on the motherboard components.

I actually have no idea how those "pancake" HSFs work. Do they push hot air up, typically?

EDIT: Using water cooling, how effective is it to use the fan in front as a makeshift airflow fan to push air towards the back of the case, allowing airflow through mobo components?
Edited by findingthelimit - 5/19/15 at 8:59am
post #578 of 2556
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I actually have no idea how those "pancake" HSFs work. Do they push hot air up, typically?

EDIT: Using water cooling, how effective is it to use the fan in front as a makeshift airflow fan to push air towards the back of the case, allowing airflow through mobo components?

pancake coolers typically pulls air from top towards the motherboard.
i'm not sure myself, using a front intake radiator would only help a bit, much better if you could also get some side intakes to directly blow on VRMs and RAMs.

post #579 of 2556
So, referring to Linus Tech Tip's recent video about the build in this case, they've successfully placed an H80i in there along with a Titan X. Would a Fractal Design T12 fit in there instead? Considering as well that I want to use a 3.5" HDD too?

I'd prefer to use the T12 as it's slightly thicker, but I'm concerned about the T12's larger radiator end tanks.
    
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post #580 of 2556
I have a H80i with both fans as well as an MSI 970 GTX Gaming AND a 3.5" HDD in my SG13 I just built. It's a bit tight cable wise, but it does fit! The H80i fan touches on the ATX header and USB header on my motherboard (Asus Z79I Plus) but it works. It's only the screws on the fans that touch the headers, if the screw heads were flat it wouldn't touch!
Edited by hughesey - 5/19/15 at 5:49pm
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