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Well that seals the deal. Definitely won't be "upgrading" to an fx6300. Barely any faster than 4 deneb cores at 4 ghz while its at 5ghz! How pathetic. Besides, I wouldn't even be able to get the thing to 5ghz anyway, I can't even do 3.4ghz kn my phenom at 1.45v!!

I'll definitely w8 and see what Intel offering are available in january
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Well that seals the deal. Definitely won't be "upgrading" to an fx6300. Barely any faster than 4 deneb cores at 4 ghz while its at 5ghz! How pathetic. Besides, I wouldn't even be able to get the thing to 5ghz anyway, I can't even do 3.4ghz kn my phenom at 1.45v!!

I'll definitely w8 and see what Intel offering are available in january
WHAT?
he ran wrong version... check multicore performance.
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Heh i really cant believe.. yes pentium G3258 is great chip but it cant match FX 4300 in MT - clock per clock! Just cant - when you use APi like mantle FX 4300 = i3 4130...

When you're using Mantle as your graphics API, both CPU's perform a lot better, not just FX.
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WHAT?
he ran wrong version... check multicore performance.

Hmm sorry you're right... Maybe it is a lot better. But it's still running at 5.1ghz. I don't feel like buting fx6300 and only being able to run it at stock clock 3.5ghz and having a chip barely any faster than phenom
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Hmm sorry you're right... Maybe it is a lot better. But it's still running at 5.1ghz. I don't feel like buting fx6300 and only being able to run it at stock clock 3.5ghz and having a chip barely any faster than phenom

depends on what are you playing... Did you hear that FX undervolt A LOT? ... if your playing new title maybe you should change you CPU with "used" Fx 6300 which is very cheap or even Fx 8320.
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depends on what are you playing... Did you hear that FX undervolt A LOT? ... if your playing new title maybe you should change you CPU with "used" Fx 6300 which is very cheap or even Fx 8320.

I'll look around for some used fx6300's on ebay. My motherboard doesn't support fx8320/8350
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When you're using Mantle as your graphics API, both CPU's perform a lot better, not just FX.

Mantle vs DX11?
Dx11 is good for dual cores... you will see that there isnt big difference between. While quad cores get good boost - so that why i recommend i3 instead of penitum K. Okay i3 is not really quad core but it has much more stability and that is important.
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Well that seals the deal. Definitely won't be "upgrading" to an fx6300. Barely any faster than 4 deneb cores at 4 ghz while its at 5ghz! How pathetic. Besides, I wouldn't even be able to get the thing to 5ghz anyway, I can't even do 3.4ghz kn my phenom at 1.45v!!

I'll definitely w8 and see what Intel offering are available in january

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WHAT?
he ran wrong version... check multicore performance.


I'm sure I can break 2900 at 4.1GHz, will do an additional bench after the next run at 4.1GHz.
post #999 of 1829
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depends on what are you playing... Did you hear that FX undervolt A LOT? ... if your playing new title maybe you should change you CPU with "used" Fx 6300 which is very cheap or even Fx 8320.

Everything undervolts a lot

you can calculate voltage and frequency for my CPU.. if i can do 3.3@0.9 (maybe that's a tiny bit low) then 4.6@1.32 would use ~3.16x as much power

or i could just use 4.0 @1.08 instead of 4.6@1.32.

Same math on 4.0ghz - going from 4.0 to 4.6 requires about a ~72% increase in power/heat


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Mantle vs DX11?
Dx11 is good for dual cores... you will see that there isnt big difference between. While quad cores get good boost - so that why i recommend i3 instead of penitum K. Okay i3 is not really quad core but it has much more stability and that is important.

Dual core @4.6ghz is my choice over dual core @3.4 with HT


86444eea_http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Plants_vs._Zombies_Garden_Warfare-test-PVZ_proz_radeon.jpeg

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^
i3 = 121 min, 148 average with DX
i3 = 191 min, 200 average with mantle (fps cap)

fx4300 = 89 min, 99 average with DX
fx4300 = 153 min, 171 average with mantle


Since i3 is smashing through FPS cap, we can only see that i3 gets ~36% higher min with Radeon DX, as well as 25% higher min with Mantle.



If we take a look over at Nvidia's Directx:

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i3 gets 164 min, 191 average
fx4300 gets 133 min, 166 average

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when you use APi like mantle FX 4300 = i3 4130

This is not the case and never will be. Due to the fact that these games don't see 100% performance gain with a doubling of cores, it wouldn't surprise me if 4.6ghz dual core outperformed 3.4ghz dual core + HT in the slightest
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I'll look around for some used fx6300's on ebay. My motherboard doesn't support fx8320/8350

FX 6300
stock V for 3.5Ghz is 1.325V then for 3.8/4.1 Ghz is 1.425V... actually i need for 3.5Ghz 1.188V and for4.4Ghz i need less than 1.4V.
While stock power usage with turbo in prime 95 (whole system) was 145W... then i disabled turbo and 1.188V - i dont remember but or it was 100W or 110W in prime 95 Whole system. Stock cooler was very quiet.

interesting results is when you go under 3.3Ghz.... as i remember i went under 80-85W in prime95 (whole system) suddenly you use almost 2x less power than at stock.

Cyro - i dont believe these benchmarks. There is like no difference between Fx 4300 and Fx 6300 but in reality it is huge

if you compare Fx 6100 vs FX 6300
FX 6100 gets around x1.6
FX 6300 gets around x1.4
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while quad cores
FX 4100 x1.75
FX 4300 x1.77
Edited by Themisseble - 7/5/14 at 3:53am
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