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amd phenom ii x4 965 can't break the 4GHz

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I hope thats the right Thread im posting in^^

My cpu is running on:

3.4GHz and 1.375Vcore (Stable, tested with linx and prime95)


I tried to overclock to 4GHz but i failed hard.
What i did was:

4GHz and 1.475 Vcore and 1.5 Vcore

Nothing helped me.
I get a Bluescreen when i try 4GHz.
Can i do something so i can break the 4GHz?


Saimo

ps: I use the bios to overclock.

My system:

amd phenom ii x4 965 vcore
ASRock 970 Extreme 3
AMD Radeon HD 7870
2x 4GB DDR3 Ram

I replaced the standart CPU cooler with a new one.
Maximum heat on prime95 is around 60°
Edited by Saimo - 6/14/14 at 3:42am
post #2 of 16
Hey dude, welcome to OCN biggrin.gif It's possible you are running the stepping 2 version of the 965 if so you are really going to have a hard time pushing the GHZ without huge voltage increases, you likely wont get past 3.7-3.8Ghz even with a decent air cooler... if you want to OC your chip you really want be using a C3 chip. Download a program called CPUZ to identify if your 965's c2 or c3

If you are running the stepping 2 version it will look something like this....



If you are running the stepping 3 version it will of course be a 3 instead of a 2.
Edited by Ningi07 - 6/14/14 at 6:19am
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post #3 of 16
Check this thread about this Problem. I had it too (with a C3 stepping CPU) I can't get my 965 past 4GHz stable either.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saimo View Post

Maximum heat on prime95 is around 60°
Aftermarket cooler is a good idea but 60°C is a bit hot, the max. temp on These Chips is 62°C so you're pretty Close to the Limit there. Try reducing the voltage a bit to bring the temps down.
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I had a Phemon II 965 C3 that only clock to 3.9ghz.
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Its 3-stepping.
Any idea?

Thanks. Glad to be here hehe
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Originally Posted by Saimo View Post

Its 3-stepping.
Any idea?

Thanks. Glad to be here hehe
4GHz is just the limit of a Phenom 2 (unless you have a golden chip, but that's rare) at a safe voltage and on air. frown.gif
Edited by BruceB - 6/14/14 at 1:18pm
 
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4GHz is just the limit of a Phenom 2 (unless you have a golden chip, but that's rare) at a safe voltage and on air. frown.gif

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But some Phenom II chips easily and happily reach and go above 4Ghz, both my 955 and x2 555 (which unlocked to B55) both happily sit at 4Ghz.
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But some Phenom II chips easily and happily reach and go above 4Ghz, both my 955 and x2 555 (which unlocked to B55) both happily sit at 4Ghz.

Thats not off topic. My 965 gets to 4ghz ok, but 4.1 just isnt stable under air cooling with a safe voltage. That appears to be the norm, see the other thread I posted about this issue.
 
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Thats not off topic. My 965 gets to 4ghz ok, but 4.1 just isnt stable under air cooling with a safe voltage. That appears to be the norm, see the other thread I posted about this issue.

I could get 4.2Ghz with a 955 on air? and most people I knew with Phenom ii x4's could get 4-4.2 on air.
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I could get 4.2Ghz with a 955 on air? and most people I knew with Phenom ii x4's could get 4-4.2 on air.

I'm suprised by that. I only know what I've been told and what I've learnt from my own experiences. My 965 tops at 4, my brother's 955 tops at 3.9 and many People in the other thread said that's normal.

I don't want this to turn into a "Yes it can"/"No it can't" Kind of Thing but I will say this:
Over at the 4Ghz Club (which I see gingernut started, good work on that one thumb.gif) about half of the P2 OCs in that thread are at pretty much bang on 4ghz, about a third are in the 4.1 - 4.3 (I looked at a few random ones in this range and there were some over 1.55V) and the rest are more extreme (all the way up to 6.3GHz!). So I see that there are a number of Chips that can reach 4+ Speeds (validated, not necessarily stable), but to say 4+ stable Speeds are normal isn't right.

[EDIT]
^^That sounds a bit stronger than I meant it to come across.
I was just trying to say that a max 4Ghz OC is (given the evidence at Hand), more often than not, to be expected.
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