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Ducky vs. Razer BlackWidow 2014 Edition. Help me decide please?

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Hey OC.net, longtime lurker, first time poster/account-creator. Last night my CM Storm Trigger bit the dust, the USB connector to the PC just came right off the PCB in the middle of a Guild Wars 2 session and I had to mouse only until I died and dug out my old Razer Lycosa from 2008 (yes, it's still kicking, more on that later.) Now I really liked the Storm Trigger, but one thing that drove me nuts was how it would constantly reboot mid-game or during any kind of furious typing sessions. At first I thought the packaged cable was bad and bought a new 3rd party one, the problem persisted. I realize now that I was likely a bad connection/loose solder on the USB port to the PCB.

So, here's where I need as much help as I can get because I would like to make this purchase with as much knowledge as possible. Below are a list of questions that I'd appreciate if you guys answered to help me make this decision. I'm really picky when it comes to keyboards, say what you will about Razer products but I have had only one Razer mouse die on me and it was an old Diamondback that got toted everywhere. My Lycosa has seen more punishment than any keyboard ever should and the only problem it really has is that the WASD keys are rubbing off from frequent use. biggrin.gif

As a note, I'm also looking at Corsair's K70 line, particularly their new RGB series that's coming out, but that's more for bling factor. Still, if you have a Corsair, feel free to chime in!

QUESTIONS!
Which Keyboard(s) Do You Own?

How long have you had it/them?

What kind of switches are you using?

What are some things that bug you about your keyboard(s)?

Ever dropped it? What happened?

Ever spilled something on it? Is it still up and kicking?

What is the most important thing to you when it comes to choosing a mechanical keyboard?



Sorry for the wall of text, I just really don't want to shell out for something that may be a shoddy product. I think I had an older model of the Trigger, I got mine back in Feb 2013 and the things people praise are not things that I have noticed. That being said I have personal experience with Razer being solid quality despite the sometimes hefty price and I hear nothing but good things about Ducky. Corsair has great reviews, but I'd like to weigh as many opinions as possible before making the final call.


tl;dr Newbie needs a new keyboard and is aggregating opinions to decide on which $140+ keyboard he's going to express order so he can get back to typing and gaming comfortably.


Thanks in advance for your help! smile.gif

P.S. I'm most definitely going with Cherry Reds (Greens in Razer's case,) but I may try Blues since I like the feel of them a little better when I'm working.
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Which Keyboard(s) Do You Own?
- Filco Majestouch Ninja 2, Razer Lycosa
How long have you had it/them?
- Had the Razer for many years, haven't used it for the past 2 years, it was replaced by the Filco
What kind of switches are you using?
- Cherry MX Red
What are some things that bug you about your keyboard(s)?
- I love literally everything about my keyboard. I did extensive research before purchasing it beforehand, however.
Ever dropped it? What happened?
- No
Ever spilled something on it? Is it still up and kicking?
- No, it's my baby. I don't eat by it and I wash my hands before using it after meals to preserve the UV coating on the key caps for as long as possible.
What is the most important thing to you when it comes to choosing a mechanical keyboard?
- Brand reliability and feel


I think you'll find that most people on OCN are not fans of Razer when it comes to keyboards typically because of their cheap construction when compared to brands like Filco, Ducky, Leopold, etc. Most people are going to recommend you Ducky. Do you have any models in mind you want to compare from Ducky?
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The Shine 3 is what I've been looking at. Lots of color options on top of what I understand is a solid build quality. I agree with Razer products feeling cheap although I haven't gotten a chance to get my hands on the new BlackWidow, I'm hoping they addressed some issues I heard about with last year's models (spacebar being placed in such a manner that it could also press and Alt key. Enter and caps lock switches feeling different from other keys.) Little things like that would drive me nuts after a while.
post #4 of 21
I'd get the Ducky Shine 3 over the a Blackwidow every single time. The gamer aesthetic and well known LED issues put me off the Razer, I'm also not convinced the Kailh switches they are now using will be as reliable as Cherry MX switches.
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Thanks Paradigm, sorry for the late acknowledgement. I did a lot more reading up on Ducky overall and thanks to a lot of posts from this forum and a lucky break in the form of a friend bringing his to my place I'm happy to say I've made a decision.

Now I just have to decide on a color biggrin.gif
post #6 of 21
I hope you like the board. smile.gif
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Paradigm84 View Post

I'm also not convinced the Kailh switches they are now using will be as reliable as Cherry MX switches.

Kailh switches? What the heck.
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Kailh switches? What the heck.

Essentially another company using Cherry's MX design, or for the versions in the new Razer boards, modified versions of existing Cherry MX designs.
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tkl shine 3 with mx blues over here i came from a razer black widow and i have to say the build quality of the ducky feels better. however i will also say this and im not sure what it has to do with but sometimes on boot up (asus vi gene motherboard) the keyboard wont fully power on until after the mash button for bios screen passes. I don't know if this is because the keyboard uses more power than average or perhaps its just a quark with the ducky but the razer dident do that and neither did the corsair k70 i owned and still like a great deal. all that said tenkeyless is a great idea if you don't use the number pad and ill defiantly buy another ducky when this one eventually dies (which from the looks of it wont happen any time soon).
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tkl shine 3 with mx blues over here i came from a razer black widow and i have to say the build quality of the ducky feels better. however i will also say this and im not sure what it has to do with but sometimes on boot up (asus vi gene motherboard) the keyboard wont fully power on until after the mash button for bios screen passes. I don't know if this is because the keyboard uses more power than average or perhaps its just a quark with the ducky but the razer dident do that and neither did the corsair k70 i owned and still like a great deal. all that said tenkeyless is a great idea if you don't use the number pad and ill defiantly buy another ducky when this one eventually dies (which from the looks of it wont happen any time soon).

I know some higher-end ASUS boards have a feature which delays the booting of keyboard functionality over USB to allow for faster OS booting, but if it only happens for your Ducky board then I'm not sure.
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