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I want to build a new rig. My previous rig consisted of 3930k, trifire 290x, extreme11 x79, 32gb 1866mhz dominator platinum ram, h100i and Corsair 800d case. I would still have it if my roof didnt cave in on it lol.

I'm not in a rush to build but looking to complete it before Feb 2015. Ive set this time frame to allow for future tech that should arrive in this time that could be better for 4k. Like official hdmi 2.0 or dp1.3 on a gpu finally lol.

Im thinking 2 or 3 Nvidia gpus but obviously we still dont know exactly when and what is coming out.

I guess the first thing I can get is the Case so I can custom mod it before all the parts arrive. Ive never done a big custom case, however i am pretty good with my hands and I have plenty of tools and time to get the job done. I will do full custom water cool job too which is a first for me.

what future cpu/gpu combo should I be thinking of? Should I go a 880 when they first come out or wait n hope for potential 8 series titan?

4/6/8 core cpu?

Im thinking ill need a 1500w psu yeah?

I guess a fair bit of the water cooling gear can be source via specials whilst I wait for the gpus.

which case should I go for and what ideas do you have for the custom modifications.

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Im thinking of pairing the rig with a Samsung Curved TV. But ill have to wait and see how input lag and hdmi 2.0 pans out with it and the future gpus. Rumour has it that the GTX Titan Black now has hdmi 2.0 enabled thanks to the latest Nvidia drivers.

I will buy some steam summer sale games for those that are a great help. You win I win lol.
Edited by hatlesschimp - 6/20/14 at 8:41am
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You dont need 1500 watts unless you are going to have 3 or more video cards with volt mods and crazy OC on everything, everything you want is still far off so wait and see before you start thinking about buying new stuff.
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In no particular order:
1) Asking about what vaporware to buy inevitably ends in a hardware circle jerk. You're asking about relative performance of things that don't exist yet and it's going to rapidly devolve into fanboys arguing about things that they can't know yet. Just follow the normal rule of waiting as long as you can to order a piece of hardware, but whatever's best at the time and don't worry about it.

I can totally understand the excitement of planning the computer in advance, but with stuff like this, it's likely to turn into a bunch of arguments over things that don't really exist yet. Plans change, things get pushed back, sometimes GPUs have to have their core-count cut due to manufacturing issues. Basically, just wait until you're ready to buy them, and discuss it then when there are benchmarks and physical data on things, not just power points and theories.

2) Samsung Engineers have admitted to one of my buddies at a major home theater chain (he's one of their best sellers of Samsung within the company) that curved displays are nothing but a gimmick. You're spending money on a curved display that really doesn't do anything except for upping the cool factor. Save that money and put it to the better 4K tvs that will inevitably come out as the content catches up.

3) Unless your OCing those GPUs heavily, 1500W is way more than needed. 1200W would be more than enough even with some casual overclocking (SLI'd 780Ti's only consume 650W total system and power consumption tends to hold about level over time for high-end GPUs) . If your'e in Tri-SLI or Tri-XIRE I don't know how extreme your overclocking can even get. If you want to overbuy your PSU, that's totally up to you, just thought I'd point out that you're way bigger than needed here, and that'll cause the PSU to run less efficiently.

4) When it comes to cases I'm a fan of a blank slate: TJ07 (hard to find since it's older, but easily my favorite case), or the 900D being the modern equivalent. There's nothing super-flash about them, they're just big and empty with lots of room to tinker and fit things. You'll probably have to make some tweaks for cable routing and mounting the pump and res, other than this the only generic mod people can really recommend is that you drill out all the rivets and get it powder coated at some place locally.
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Well I had a AX1200i and it got maxed with 3 titans with a slight overclock and a 4.5ghz 3930k.

Also ive heard its not the best to ring a psu's neck.

I know I want next gen gpu. Obviously we all dont know what is coming and I stated this.

So guess starting point can be the case for me then and that gets me going.

Anyways this is going to be a long thread and I want to share my experiences and to be honest this could be my last big build for some time and want to enjoy the build. I also want to learn from other OCN members too by getting their thoughts and advice. Everyone has opinions and as long as everyone is happy with that and im cool with it too. Because at the end of the day I listen to everyone and make my own decision.
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I know the samsung is in the 70 - 80ms range for input lag. But was not sure if that was for 4k @ 30hz. I like the Curved screen! It makes images look 3d to me lol and I already have a Sony 4k tv. Ive tried 4k at 32" and wasnt happy with the small scaling in windows. My 65" was great but I think 48" - 55" is the sweet spot for 4k and my viewing distance. I was considering building a sli titan black rig since they appear to now output a single stream 60hz 4k signal. But I think thats silly since new Nvidia cards will be here before or slightly after Xmas.
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I know the samsung is in the 70 - 80ms range for input lag. But was not sure if that was for 4k @ 30hz. I like the Curved screen! It makes images look 3d to me lol and I already have a Sony 4k tv. Ive tried 4k at 32" and wasnt happy with the small scaling in windows. My 65" was great but I think 48" - 55" is the sweet spot for 4k and my viewing distance. I was considering building a sli titan black rig since they appear to now output a single stream 60hz 4k signal. But I think thats silly since new Nvidia cards will be here before or slightly after Xmas.
I also believe that input lag on that samsung, is also without any type of PC connection. I am sure that number will drop once HDMI 2.0 or DP 1.3 comes out and we can efficiently use them.
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In no particular order:
1) Asking about what vaporware to buy inevitably ends in a hardware circle jerk. You're asking about relative performance of things that don't exist yet and it's going to rapidly devolve into fanboys arguing about things that they can't know yet. Just follow the normal rule of waiting as long as you can to order a piece of hardware, but whatever's best at the time and don't worry about it.

I can totally understand the excitement of planning the computer in advance, but with stuff like this, it's likely to turn into a bunch of arguments over things that don't really exist yet. Plans change, things get pushed back, sometimes GPUs have to have their core-count cut due to manufacturing issues. Basically, just wait until you're ready to buy them, and discuss it then when there are benchmarks and physical data on things, not just power points and theories.

2) Samsung Engineers have admitted to one of my buddies at a major home theater chain (he's one of their best sellers of Samsung within the company) that curved displays are nothing but a gimmick. You're spending money on a curved display that really doesn't do anything except for upping the cool factor. Save that money and put it to the better 4K tvs that will inevitably come out as the content catches up.

3) Unless your OCing those GPUs heavily, 1500W is way more than needed. 1200W would be more than enough even with some casual overclocking (SLI'd 780Ti's only consume 650W total system and power consumption tends to hold about level over time for high-end GPUs) . If your'e in Tri-SLI or Tri-XIRE I don't know how extreme your overclocking can even get. If you want to overbuy your PSU, that's totally up to you, just thought I'd point out that you're way bigger than needed here, and that'll cause the PSU to run less efficiently.

4) When it comes to cases I'm a fan of a blank slate: TJ07 (hard to find since it's older, but easily my favorite case), or the 900D being the modern equivalent. There's nothing super-flash about them, they're just big and empty with lots of room to tinker and fit things. You'll probably have to make some tweaks for cable routing and mounting the pump and res, other than this the only generic mod people can really recommend is that you drill out all the rivets and get it powder coated at some place locally
.

Was thinking about the 900D. Damn its big lol. But good for watercooling! Does it come with wheels? I might put some wheels on it lol.
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I also believe that input lag on that samsung, is also without any type of PC connection. I am sure that number will drop once HDMI 2.0 or DP 1.3 comes out and we can efficiently use them.
I think ill have to finish the rig and roll it into the store and try them all out lol
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There is no need to get a powerful pc if GTA will be optimized(aswelll it could be a console port-)
About the build Is this just for gaming?what titles do you play?do you use something else in.the pc?(applications)
Why not wait for gta V.benchmarks and then make a more clear choice for the parts?
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Well I had a AX1200i and it got maxed with 3 titans with a slight overclock and a 4.5ghz 3930k.

Also ive heard its not the best to ring a psu's neck.

I know I want next gen gpu. Obviously we all dont know what is coming and I stated this.

So guess starting point can be the case for me then and that gets me going.

Anyways this is going to be a long thread and I want to share my experiences and to be honest this could be my last big build for some time and want to enjoy the build. I also want to learn from other OCN members too by getting their thoughts and advice. Everyone has opinions and as long as everyone is happy with that and im cool with it too. Because at the end of the day I listen to everyone and make my own decision.
You generally want to size your computer so that ACTUAL full load is about 90% of your PSUs capacity. That means running 100% usage across all cards, and CPU at your OC, then that's 90% of the size PSU you need.

If you're really wanting to OC, then 1500W may be the way to go, simply because you don't know how good an OC you'll get, and what your real power draw will be... and realistically the extra running cost probably doesn't matter when you're willing to drop the money several 4k displays and a rig like this.
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I know the samsung is in the 70 - 80ms range for input lag. But was not sure if that was for 4k @ 30hz. I like the Curved screen! It makes images look 3d to me lol and I already have a Sony 4k tv. Ive tried 4k at 32" and wasnt happy with the small scaling in windows. My 65" was great but I think 48" - 55" is the sweet spot for 4k and my viewing distance. I was considering building a sli titan black rig since they appear to now output a single stream 60hz 4k signal. But I think thats silly since new Nvidia cards will be here before or slightly after Xmas.
I dislike the curve displays simply because then you have a viewing sweet-spot and I tend to shift in my seats, or sit in different places within the room if I'm watching a movie or something, and the curved displays throw me off since the near side of the TV is width-compressed based on perspective.
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Was thinking about the 900D. Damn its big lol. But good for watercooling! Does it come with wheels? I might put some wheels on it lol.
The good modding cases are usually big. The 900D is essentially a re-hash of the TJ07 which is easily my favorite case. You could also look at the HAF Stacker 935 - it'd let you semi-externalize a lot of components similar to the 900D, but give you a bit more flexibility about what you hid and what's visible. Move that add-on to the bottom, jam dual, fat 360mm rads into it with a brick of fans, then you can build up the rest of the case likes it's any old air-cooled case and not have to hide away the PSU if you don't want to.

The 900D doesn't come with Wheels, but you could easily mount some just behind the feet so the casters wouldn't be easily visible. Some appropriately-sized spherical casters would mount on it quite nicely and most people wouldn't even notice it was on wheels until you moved it.
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