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post #1 of 21
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Hi,

I really like the colors of an Apple Cinema display but can't afford it.
Which one of the following has the most vivid colors of the bunch? (If you know something better please! suggest)

Option 1: Crossover 27QW / Crossover Black Tune 2735AMG / Shmian QH2700 (all got the same panel I believe)
Option 2: Crossover 27Q
Option 3: Shimian QH270

Please note: Image quality is also very important to me, I would highly prefer a glossy display, no overclock is needed.

Thanks smile.gif
post #2 of 21
I believe the AOC Q2770 is the best affordable 1440p panel, but it's not quite as cheap as Shimian/Crossover variants.

Whatever you get, be sure to pick up a display calibrator as well.
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post #3 of 21
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Thanks Bruce, the AOC is too expensive for me.

There is a very good deal on a dell U2713HM (here in Israel).
But its colors were nothing close to the apple Cinema display (maybe it was a calibration issue?)

Which monitor out of the cheap ones (up to ~$450 max) has the best vibrant/vivid colors?

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post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by mos86 View Post

There is a very good deal on a dell U2713HM (here in Israel).
But its colors were nothing close to the apple Cinema display (maybe it was a calibration issue?)

U2713HM isn't all that good of a monitor, the Cinema display is better. The U2713H however is a great 27 incher and can be compared to the Cinema display. It's better than the Korean panels and I have mine overclocked to 74 HZ at 2560x1440. You can't find one under $450 unless you're willing to buy used though.
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post #5 of 21
Well I'm partial to Shimians since I have one and love it, and I think all 3 monitors use the newer LG IPS panels. Some of the Shimians have 10 bit color input, IDK if that matters to you or not.
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It makes me cry when I look at these prices considering when I was in Korea earlier this year I saw catleaps for 160 USD T.T
    
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Originally Posted by TheReciever View Post

It makes me cry when I look at these prices considering when I was in Korea earlier this year I saw catleaps for 160 USD T.T

160!?

Man, those eBay resellers must've made a fortune.
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post #8 of 21
To be fair it was in the electronics market there, Yongsang and was used. They looked beautiful though and undamaged. They were likely refubs or RMA's

You can find similar prices on gmarket. Korea's version of ebay. Not sure if they ship international though

None the less, shed a tear when I saw them. Couldnt exactly pack a few catleaps in my bag lol.
    
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The U2713H can't overclock without dropping frames (need to test it properly) and it is a wide gamut monitor, so unless one knows how to use color management (games don't support color management) or sets it to the sRGB mode (the sRGB modes colors are not as good as a decent standard gamut, 1440p monitor), the colors will look over-saturated and inaccurate. It also suffers from very obvious overshoot ghosting and has 2 frames of input lag unless the game mode is used, but the game mode uses the wrong color gamut for games and has locked color controls.

The Apple has nice colors until it displays something dark, then it looks awful since the glass makes blacks look gray and it is extremely reflective.

Example: Samsung S27B970D with glass like the Apple vs glossy Crossover 2720MDP

Glass vs semi-glossy NEC P242W


The new Korean AH-IPS 1440p monitors use Plasma Deposition Coating which also makes blacks look grayish, but it's not as bad as regular glass.

Plasma Deposition Coating vs. Gloss


Only glossy monitors can provide the extra vibrancy matte coatings lack as well as decent blacks. The Crossover 2720MDP (multi-input),First FSM-270YG, MOTV M2700 and Yamakasi Catleap 2B are glossy and have very good colors. The MOTV and Yamakasi use the same overclock-able panel which can be oc'd up to 120hz. The Crossover 27Q LED is also glossy but they tend to die.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 6/23/14 at 11:17am
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post #10 of 21
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Thanks all smile.gif
that was soooo helpful MenacingTuba!

Many reviews in amazon love the colors of the Crossover 27QW, and the following review praises the color of the Crossover 2755AMG that is essentially the same (I think!).
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The Crossover 2755AMG is an excellent all around monitor for users who want a display with color controls and extra inputs, except when it comes to displaying dark scenes. The Plasma Deposition Coating provides unmatched clarity and vibrancy when displaying whites and light colors but it makes the blacks in dark scenes look grayish. Letter-boxed movies are particularly unpleasant since the black letterbox bars look grayish and really stand out. Monitors which use Plasma Deposition Coating can never be considered amazing all around displays due to their inability to display deep blacks. Still, the out of the color accuracy is better than the majority of monitors I have reviewed, as is the calibrated color accuracy. The Crossover 2755AMG offers the best colors I have ever seen, but this is largely a result of the use of Plasma Deposition Coating (source)

The greyish blacks of the Plasma Deposition Coating doesn't bother me so much, and I like the looks of an edge to edge glass, it reminds the wonderful screen of an 27'' iMac smile.gif (I wish I had)

1. Do you agree that the Plasma Deposition Coating makes the colors more vibrant for light colors?
2. I just can't find an answer: how can I tell if a 27QW or a 2735AMG can show lower resolutions (like when the computer boots, setup screen etc)?


Thanks smile.gif
Edited by mos86 - 6/23/14 at 3:51pm
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