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Hey guys,

So I just got a G3258 in a new build with a Asrock Z97 Pro4 and a 212 EVO. The temps running P95 at stock were awful though -- CPUTIN (from HWMON -- this is tcase, correct?) ~37-40C and core temps of 70-80C. Could this just be an issue with the heatsink being seated poorly? I was a bit concerned because the tcase wasn't being affected much by CPU load, while the core temps were, which suggested more of an issue with the TIM.

I'll need to get some solvent before I can reseat the EVO, which is why I'm posing the question instead of just remounting it..
post #172 of 224
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Originally Posted by rogueleader25 View Post

Hey guys,

So I just got a G3258 in a new build with a Asrock Z97 Pro4 and a 212 EVO. The temps running P95 at stock were awful though -- CPUTIN (from HWMON -- this is tcase, correct?) ~37-40C and core temps of 70-80C. Could this just be an issue with the heatsink being seated poorly? I was a bit concerned because the tcase wasn't being affected much by CPU load, while the core temps were, which suggested more of an issue with the TIM.

I'll need to get some solvent before I can reseat the EVO, which is why I'm posing the question instead of just remounting it..

Welcome to OCN!

What case have you got and how much fans does it have?
Are those temps on the 212 EVO and have you overclocked it? if so what voltages is it running at?
post #173 of 224
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Welcome to OCN!

What case have you got and how much fans does it have?
Are those temps on the 212 EVO and have you overclocked it? if so what voltages is it running at?
Thanks!

Case is a NXZT 220 Source with one rear exhaust and two front intake fans. The airflow is pretty substantial. The chip was running at stock speeds, as I didn't want to overclock it until I got the core temps down at stock. Vcore I believe was sitting at about 0.8V, package power use at ~30W in P95.

P.S. this is actually a friend's build, I'm just helping with it
Edited by rogueleader25 - 7/12/14 at 3:09pm
post #174 of 224
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Thanks!

Case is a NXZT 220 Source with one rear exhaust and two front intake fans. The airflow is pretty substantial. The chip was running at stock speeds, as I didn't want to overclock it until I got the core temps down at stock. Vcore I believe was sitting at about 0.8V, package power use at ~30W in P95.

P.S. this is actually a friend's build, I'm just helping with it

No problem.
Okay, and you're running the EVO 212?
Have you checked the CPU fan speeds?

I think HWMonitor should show them.
post #175 of 224
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Originally Posted by TopicClocker View Post

No problem.
Okay, and you're running the EVO 212?
Have you checked the CPU fan speeds?

I think HWMonitor should show them.
Yep, running the 212 EVO in the Pentium build -- fan was operating normally. It was revving up to high speeds just fine when running prime 95. I didn't watch it in HWmon, but I did go into the BIOS and played with it there -- at "standard" fan setting it was running at 1300RPM, and I was able to force it up to 1800 RPM in the Bios. Under both settings, while still in the BIOS, the CPU core temp was idling at 50C.
post #176 of 224
*raises hand*

Got mine today! No delidding though. I'll just put it under a Hyper 212 EVO and see how it rolls. smile.gif
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*raises hand*

Got mine today! No delidding though. I'll just put it under a Hyper 212 EVO and see how it rolls. smile.gif
yeah if you see my above posts, I would much appreciate getting some comparison data of tcase/core temp/fan speed at stock-idle temps and stock-load temps.


There's all these reviews floating about that use these ridiculous coolors, and well, I haven't quite scoured these forums yet, but I'm getting there redface.gif
post #178 of 224
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Yep, running the 212 EVO in the Pentium build -- fan was operating normally. It was revving up to high speeds just fine when running prime 95. I didn't watch it in HWmon, but I did go into the BIOS and played with it there -- at "standard" fan setting it was running at 1300RPM, and I was able to force it up to 1800 RPM in the Bios. Under both settings, while still in the BIOS, the CPU core temp was idling at 50C.

Your temps definitely seem off to me, considering on the stock cooler my idle temps are in the mid-high 30s with power saving and load is around 76-79c at 4GHz 1.222v
What TIM did you use for the cooler? it could also be a seating problem.
Edited by TopicClocker - 7/13/14 at 1:15am
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Yea but I bet they won't give you free shipping on those "free" mounting hardware...

I have seen people reporting the got theirs for free after contacting them.
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Yea but I bet they won't give you free shipping on those "free" mounting hardware... and I'd hardly believe it'd cost them $10-15 to make a few slivers of metal and a few screws.

So.. No, they're not free... they're built into the price..

That's not really the point. Even a $15 shipping charge to re-use an awesome cooler is better than getting stuck with a stock cooler, or having to buy a $40+ HSF every time you upgrade your CPU.

I've had the D14 since . . . 2009? I've mounted it on three different processors at a cost-per-CPU of $33 (I paid around $100 for the HSF). If you look at cost-per-socket, okay, it's $100, since all those chips went into the same AM3 board. I can get that cost-per-socket down to about $50 if/when I get a new board + cpu later. If I go FM2+, the mounting hardware I have already should work, which would be an added bonus.

Given the limits of air cooling, I don't see that big coolers like the D14, D15, Silver Arrow, etc. are in any danger of going obsolete (at least as far as HSFs go), so they're pretty good long-term investments, provided the manufacturer is willing to supply mounting hardware updates, which Noctua is for the D15. So if it's "built into the price", great! It's still a good deal.
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