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[Various] ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q & GTX 780Ti Matrix review

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In real world terms, the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 144hz G-Sync Monitor delivers clean, bright images without any noticeable bias. As far as TN screens go, this is about as good as we have seen.
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In closing, we have no hesitation in giving the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 144hz G-Sync Monitor our MUST HAVE award. Gamers who require the smoothest frame rates and have yet to jump into the Ultra HD 4K sector will find this screen will fulfill most, if not all of their desires.
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Important note as mentioned in the next posts: the reviews are vague and don't mention ULMB.



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#2 ·
Yay a review!
 
#3 ·
My body is ready..time to read.
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#4 ·
I should not have read that review.

For now the wait until it arrives is going to be extremely unbearable. Best. Monitor. Ever. Get. On. My. Big. Desk.
 
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Review was trash.
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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

Either Asus/NVIDIA is telling them not to talk about it, or these "review" sites that get their hands on the Swift and don't even mention ULMB mode are completely daft..
I see I'm not the only one disappointed about the lack of ULMB review.
Let's hope Mark will review it soon. I would only trust him for that task.
 
#9 ·
Very basic/Vague review however the monitor is clearly excellent
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. All I'm waiting for is very technical and detailed input lag tests (like done on a few other very good monitor test/review websites) to make sure it is at least just as good, with regards to total input lag, as the insanely low input lag hardcore gaming monitors, specifically the following: ASUS VG248QE, BenQ XL2411Z/XL2411T, BenQ XL2420Z/XL2420T, BenQ XL2720Z.

Then we need NVIDIA to make a bloody GPU with 3 or 4 DP outlets for triple screen users. Seriously, the only time I never had any tearing, even with wildy fluctuating framerates and V-Sync off, was during the time I owned/used an ASUS AMD HD 7970 Matrix Platinum with all 3 of my monitors plugged in native Display Port to Display Port. No matter the game, no matter the framerates, there was never tearing, EVER. Stutters and un-smoothness due to fluctuating frames, sure, but NEVER any actual tearing. I've done research on this and I am not the only one to discover this whole 3-monitor-all-plugged-with-native-DP-to-DP-never-any-tearing phenomenon. Regardless of this whole phenomenon, it's pretty irrelevant with G-Sync now anyways, however having to buy 3 GPUs just because you want to use 3 monitors is the most ******ed and ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Many people game with 3 monitors and 1 GPU, never mind 3.
 
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Even if colors are a little better than a normal TN panel due to 8bit, they are still quite a bit worse than IPS/VA, and with 170/160 viewing angles you are sure to see massive shifts in quality just by barely moving your head. I feel 27" is a bit large for such viewing angles.

The review made it sound like anything below 70FPS and GSYNC wouldn't work correctly, which I don't believe is true. You could run max settings with GSYNC and game at 50-70FPS and it'd still be roughly as smooth as a 60hz monitor with the benefits of no tearing, I'd definitely prefer lower FPS and higher settings, with maybe the exception of online FPS.

Also why on earth would this monitor soak up 75W after calibration? Either these guys have the brightness cranked up incredibly high, or this monitor is very inefficient. Expect some heat coming out the back.
 
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Also why on earth would this monitor soak up 75W after calibration? Either these guys have the brightness cranked up incredibly high, or this monitor is very inefficient. Expect some heat coming out the back.
They did comment that the back of the display has a pretty slick venting structure. There's definitely some heat being generated in there - I wonder if it is G-Sync that is drawing the power.
 
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Even if colors are a little better than a normal TN panel due to 8bit, they are still quite a bit worse than IPS/VA, and with 170/160 viewing angles you are sure to see massive shifts in quality just by barely moving your head. I feel 27" is a bit large for such viewing angles.

The review made it sound like anything below 70FPS and GSYNC wouldn't work correctly, which I don't believe is true. You could run max settings with GSYNC and game at 50-70FPS and it'd still be roughly as smooth as a 60hz monitor with the benefits of no tearing, I'd definitely prefer lower FPS and higher settings, with maybe the exception of online FPS.

Also why on earth would this monitor soak up 75W after calibration? Either these guys have the brightness cranked up incredibly high, or this monitor is very inefficient. Expect some heat coming out the back.
That has yet to be said in an review....

So far everyone that has seen it in person has said that it is close to IPS/PLS levels in color - unfortunately this review didn't really touch too much on color or properly measure it and give it a direct comparison.
 
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That has yet to be said in an review....

So far everyone that has seen it in person has said that it is close to IPS/PLS levels in color - unfortunately this review didn't really touch too much on color or properly measure it and give it a direct comparison.
ASUS stated in the interview that they will still be worse. He states "if someone want the best black levels, color, viewing angles, then they still make IPS panels for that market.". However, even if color is equal, the viewing angles will cause quite a bit of color washout along the edges even when viewing from dead on.
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I think it was this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JxnHLFOOw0

Hopefully we get some more detailed reviews soon.
 
#17 ·
A pretty disappointing review, here's hoping there are some more comprehensive ones in the near future. As much as I'd like a G-sync monitor, I think I'll pass for now either way.
 
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A pretty disappointing review, here's hoping there are some more comprehensive ones in the near future. As much as I'd like a G-sync monitor, I think I'll pass for now either way.
It's KitGuru after all
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Indeed also waiting for HWI or Tom's
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I would be interested in this it if were not so expensive in the UK in comparison to the US.

'Only $799 in America but £720 in UK ($1235).'

Yeah, no.
It's called VAT
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Too bad for us Europeans =/
 
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Originally Posted by vs17e View Post

The real question: do I stay on my lightboost setup or try to go for g-sync. Hmmm
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The monitor is 3D capable which means it can function in stroboscopic mode, so you can have both (but not at the same time).

If you can keep the frames consistent then stroboscopic (Lightboost, ULMB, etc.) gaming still completely annihilates G-Sync. Remember, G-Sync doesn't make the image look any better compared to G-Sync off, V-Sync on, etc. G-Sync just gets rid of tearing, stutters, etc. so you'll almost always have the most fluid graphics possible for the given frames-per-second that you are running. That being said, 120 frames per second / Hz in stroboscopic mode (lightboost, ULMB, etc.) has the equivalent fluidity and visual clearness of regular, non-strobed gaming (be it V-Sync, G-Sync, etc.) at around 750 fps/Hz. That's correct, I said seven-hundred and fifty
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. That being said, stroboscopic mode can have stutters, tearing etc. like in regular non-VSync/non-GSync mode unless you combine VSync with strobed mode, then you wont have tearing but still the chnce of stutters/un-smoothness due to framerate drops, not to mention the added input lag of VSync
 
#25 ·
The review was really bad frankly...

I don't know if I want to ditch my ips 1440p monitor. It's a korean one and has back light bleeding and it does not bother me so I guess black level is not really important for me but vibrant color might be a deal beaker with viewing angle. The best thing would be to compare side by side but..
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

ASUS stated in the interview that they will still be worse. He states "if someone want the best black levels, color, viewing angles, then they still make IPS panels for that market.". However, even if color is equal, the viewing angles will cause quite a bit of color washout along the edges even when viewing from dead on.
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I think it was this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JxnHLFOOw0

Hopefully we get some more detailed reviews soon.
Not as good != Quit a bit worse.

There are several degrees between those.
 
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