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We're all gonna buy this and then next year they're gonna roll out 4K 120Hz IPS monitors with Gsync 2.0 biggrin.gif
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I just want a monitor with decent black levels. I don't know of one. I'm not expecting anything to match my ST60 but I can't deal with awful LED blacks and light bleed. I honestly don't know how anyone can. Can't deal with IPS glow either.

This is obviously a decent piece of hardware that pushes the technology about as far as it can go but OLED really needs to get here soon.

Making due with a 144hz monitor now cause it's good for shooters but actually watching anything on this is a chore. I hate to rant but it's really sad we've basically gone backwards and in the last year taken a major step backward with the Panny/Sony OLED deal falling through and Samsung and Panasonic getting out of the plasma business. More of a comment on the overall state of displays rather then specifically monitors it just sucks that this is the direction they are going. G-sync seems like so much wasted potential to me.

VA panels are quite good for black levels. I have the same problem with my HX929 TV, it produces way better picture than any IPS panel i've seen. Blacks that truely match the bezel even in a pitch black room.

Many people that bought into the new OLED TVs are getting retention issues just after a single anamorphic movie. I'm still not sure if OLED will ever be usable for heavy PC/game usage. If you game for more than a couple hours, you risk UI burn-in. They also have a lot of input lag, my friends 55" Samsung OLED measured at 67ms for me and that's in PC mode. It's was over 100ms in movie mode.

Even when they become affordable, until these issues are fixed they aren't very viable as a monitor. frown.gif
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We're all gonna buy this and then next year they're gonna roll out 4K 120Hz IPS monitors with Gsync 2.0 biggrin.gif

Not even the best cables, interfaces, etc can run that bandwidth to my knowledge? 4 of the best cards would not be able to maintain anywhere close to 120 fps at 4k either. I don't think we'll see 4K 120hz for 3-4 years at the earliest.
Edited by Murlocke - 7/4/14 at 9:05pm
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I wouldn't want 4k because Id never be able to afford all the necessary GPU upgrades. Though the idea of buying another two of these monitors in like 5 years time if they end up super cheap is more enticing, I just found out that you need 3 GPUs for G sync on them all QQ.

One of these monitors, and the mechanical keyboard I ordered too is about what I can afford every 1-2 years, so I'll just be sticking to one, and my current Acer as a second monitor.
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VA panels are quite good for black levels. I have the same problem with my HX929 TV, it produces way better picture than any IPS panel i've seen. Blacks that truely match the bezel even in a pitch black room.

Many people that bought into the new OLED TVs are getting retention issues just after a single anamorphic movie. I'm still not sure if OLED will ever be usable for heavy PC/game usage. If you game for more than a couple hours, you risk UI burn-in. They also have a lot of input lag, my friends 55" Samsung OLED measured at 67ms for me and that's in PC mode. It's was over 100ms in movie mode.

Even when they become affordable, until these issues are fixed they aren't very viable as a monitor. frown.gif
Not even the best cables, interfaces, etc can run that bandwidth to my knowledge? 4 of the best cards would not be able to maintain anywhere close to 120 fps at 4k either. I don't think we'll see 4K 120hz for 3-4 years at the earliest.

O led is still in its infancy. Plasma suffered from major retention issues. Pioneer fixed the issue. Samsung and Panasonic got close enough they basically did as well. Basically I'm saying that if they put even half the r and d they put into led into o led the issues it has with ir and colors burning out should be fixed.

Sorry about the phone grammar.

Pc games on an st60 in a dark room look unreal. My only real regret is not getting the VT. Talk about input lag. To be honest though I could probably deal with 50ms if it meant perfect black. At this point I'm not keeping up with the really good fps players anyway. Far cry 4 looking amazing is just more important to me now.
    
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Not even the best cables, interfaces, etc can run that bandwidth to my knowledge? 4 of the best cards would not be able to maintain anywhere close to 120 fps at 4k either. I don't think we'll see 4K 120hz for 3-4 years at the earliest.

IIRC, DisplayPort 1.3 will be able to do it

but yeah, 1080p120 is already hard enough to do; as much as I want this monitor, I'm fairly intimidated by the potential hardware requirement for ULMB if it cannot yet work with G-Sync, let alone the requirement to push 4K @ 120+.

1440p is twice the pixels of 1080p, and 4K four times the pixels, 4K120 would definitely require both G-Sync + ULMB for me to consider, as I really wouldn't be all too enthusiastic about the hardware that I would want pushing such a monitor otherwise
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IIRC, DisplayPort 1.3 will be able to do it

but yeah, 1080p120 is already hard enough to do; as much as I want this monitor, I'm fairly intimidated by the potential hardware requirement for ULMB if it cannot yet work with G-Sync, let alone the requirement to push 4K @ 120+.

1440p is twice the pixels of 1080p, and 4K four times the pixels, 4K120 would definitely require both G-Sync + ULMB for me to consider, as I really wouldn't be all too enthusiastic about the hardware that I would want pushing such a monitor otherwise

1440P isn't twice the pixels of 1080P.
    
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Its about 35% more that 1200p.
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Will this give me the same smoothness that my old CRT running @ 85Hz did? Bought that back in 2001 and when I switched to 60Hz LCD in 2009 I noticed a huge drop in smoothness.
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I remember switching refresh rates between 85Hz to 60Hz on my old CRT and at 60Hz it gave me eye strain and was generally terrible to look at.

Will a 144Hz monitor look great when using regular Windows in 2D mode?

And will it produce the same "soap opera effect" that high refresh TVs give when watching movies? That would suck.
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That reminds me I used to have an IIyama diamondtron, the no.1 rated monitor at the time. Only the 17" model cos I was still a kid and my parents wouldn't pay for the 19", but it was specified for 1600x1200 res at 75 Hz, but I could never set it higher than 60 Hz at that resolution. I felt scammed.

I've been through a 17" IIyama diamondron CRT, Sony X black 19", Acer G24 and soon this Rog Swift, all the best gaming monitors when they were released, and expensive too.

To this day, I still wish I had a 19" diamondtron to play with, Ima blame my stingy parents (OMG sweet GCSE grades, you get whatever PC you want ... 19" diamondtron,Geforce 3, Athlon 1400 plox.... NOOOO TO THE 19"!!!).

They lied to me.
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