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Will this give me the same smoothness that my old CRT running @ 85Hz did? Bought that back in 2001 and when I switched to 60Hz LCD in 2009 I noticed a huge drop in smoothness.
To achieve smoothness you need:
-a combination of high frame-rate and high refresh rate. (Most people consider 60fps@60Hz as the point where it start feeling "smooth")
-synchronization between frame and refresh either through V-sync or G-sync OR a frame rate significantly higher than the refresh rate (e.g. 300+fps @144Hz)

If these conditions are met and there are no other bottleneck (micro-stuttering, stuttering, ...), you'll get a smooth (fluid) experience.

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I remember switching refresh rates between 85Hz to 60Hz on my old CRT and at 60Hz it gave me eye strain and was generally terrible to look at.
CRT displays scan the image briefly on the screen. LCD display hold the image for the entire duration of the refresh cycle.
So you don't get that heavy eye-strain inducing flickering on an LCD @60Hz, unlike on a CRT.
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Will a 144Hz monitor look great when using regular Windows in 2D mode?
If you're asking about image quality: this is up to the specifications of the monitor.

If you're asking about how the motion feels at 144Hz for desktop usage: It feels significantly smoother than at 60Hz. Just dragging windows around will feel a lot smoother.

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And will it produce the same "soap opera effect" that high refresh TVs give when watching movies? That would suck.
Unlike TV's, computer displays don't have hardware frame interpolation. So you will be able to watch movies the way you are used to.

Hope this help. Don't hesitate to ask if you need more details on something. I tried to keep it short and not bore everyone with a huge wall of text.
post #72 of 1242
After my short excursion into 4k - which didn´t turn out how I expected it to be at all - this monitor suddenly became more appealing again. That price though... thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

For almost the same price one could go 4k or 1440p widescreen. Sure, it´s feature rich and all but still...



As for the discussion regarding high vs ultra. I´m sorry but unless the game developers aren´t screwing us over by using the exact same textures on both settings you just can´t say there won´t be difference because you can´t completely judge this objectively.

For example, I was playing BF4 on 3x1080p with most settings on ultra and 2xAA. Then two monitors died and now I am stuck with a single 1080p monitor which meant I could (just for the lolz at first) turn the settings up to ultra, 4xAA, 130% resolution scale. There was more than just a little difference.
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post #73 of 1242
4k sucks though.

And this is also the best built monitor ever, very robust, looks amazing and how can you not want to get it on your desk?
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post #74 of 1242
4k sucks alright. At least with the current generation of 4k monitors.

1440p IPS however does not. wink.gif
That´s what I meant. If they´d sell the Swift for like 150 bucks cheaper or something, it would be a no-brainer.
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And will it produce the same "soap opera effect" that high refresh TVs give when watching movies? That would suck.
No, the monitor won't have the "soap opera"/"everything looks like it's a home-video" look that "so called" 120 Hz Televisions have. The reason for this is that 99% of TVs actually only run at 60 Hz, then they use frame insertion AKA interpolation. Then they use all these marketing names like true-flo, pure-vision, etc. and claim that their TV runs at 120/240/600 Hz. It's all FAKE B.S., they are only true 60 Hz TVs. PC monitors are TRUE 120/144 Hz so you don't get that "soap opera"/"everything looks like it's filmed on a home-video camera" look like FAKE 120/240/600 Hz TVs do.

Not to mention, apart from being a horrendous looking gimmick, interpolation adds even more input lag; as if TVs didn't already have enough.
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Thank you for your reply.

Now, are you implying that I am supposed to be able to max out Tomb Raider with 2x SSAA at 1080p and have a minimum of 60 FPS at all times? If so, please tell me what I should do to achieve that target.

I'm running my GPU at 1202/6008 and my CPU at 4.4GHz and I am getting drops to 30 FPS at 1080p. I'm also using the 337.50 drivers and not latter ones since they seem to be broken for my system.

What exactly could I be doing wrong that is affecting the performance so much?

Well you said it in your previous post that you are running it with the bare minimum AA. However in this post you say you are using 2xssaa which pretty much means you are running the game at 2688x1512 and not 1080p and having it downscaled. Turn that off and you will be golden. And in my experience with my old 2560x1440 dell, you dont need anything more than 2x msaa, or 4x in the worst games.
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I have a dilemma. Should I buy this monitor and the 780 ti ? Or just wait for 880/880ti with my 780 ?
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I have a dilemma. Should I buy this monitor and the 780 ti ? Or just wait for 880/880ti with my 780 ?

Buy the monitor and wait for the GTX 980 Ti. The GTX 880 (Ti) is rumored to be GM204 based (eg: GTX 680/770 successor)
   
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post #79 of 1242
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Buy the monitor and wait for the GTX 980 Ti. The GTX 880 (Ti) is rumored to be GM204 based (eg: GTX 680/770 successor)

OK so I will wait for better card. Thanks for helping me.thumb.gif
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if this is a review of a monitor I am a beaver. No tests, no color accuracy, no input lag, response time . These guys should really take a look at tftcentral.co.uk and see how a monitor review is done.
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