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I still think its not bad if you consider it a budget psu. Certainly cant be compared to higher end models but its the cheapest decent psu and for good reason. There is the CX600 but its only rated at 30C continuous? Btw where does that info come from? Looked on the Corsair site and it says "Rated up to 600W of continuous power output at 40ºC". http://www.corsair.com/en-us/builder-series-cx600
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IThere is the CX600 but its only rated at 30C continuous? Btw where does that info come from? Looked on the Corsair site and it says "Rated up to 600W of continuous power output at 40ºC". http://www.corsair.com/en-us/builder-series-cx600
I never said they where bad i said they are not all that good and thats way they are so cheap and they dont belong anywhere near a high end gaming machine or any gaming machine.

As for the 30c
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
And jonnyguru says the same.
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I never said they where bad i said they are not all that good and thats way they are so cheap and they dont belong anywhere near a high end gaming machine or any gaming machine.

As for the 30c
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
And jonnyguru says the same.

Thanks for the info. I'll ask around to check if its really 30c. Maybe corsair or realhardtech wills ays something about it.
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Thanks for the info. I'll ask around to check if its really 30c. Maybe corsair or realhardtech wills ays something about it.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=416

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Guys, this thing is only rated to full power at thirty degrees. I've spoken about this kind of thing before, but not for a while, so here's my position on this: I have no use for anything that can't do full power at forty degrees or better, and I review these units accordingly. Computer cases routinely see temperatures higher than thirty at the power supply intake, and this becomes more and more of an issue the further south you live, depending on whether or not you're buying this budget unit so you can afford to run the AC.

It also becomes more of an issue depending on where your unit is located. I have family with computers next to heating vents, because that's the only place available to put them. Guess what that does to a Canadian computer? Most of their cases don't have the newer layout where the power supply pulls room temperature air in from underneath the case, so those power supplies are taking in air heated by the vent and the computer hardware. Thirty degrees? Ha!

No, folks, thirty degrees just doesn't work for me. A unit this heavily de-rated is likely only good for 650W at a more reasonable forty to fifty degrees. It may be a perfectly decent little unit, but my hot box will not stay cool enough to make this unit happy. This is by design - my methodology is to get these things to at least forty whenever possible, because that's the lowest temperature I personally expect to get full power out of a unit. Forty is more than reasonable, even for a good budget unit.

Really, here's what it comes down to... this unit has to pass hot box testing, or there will be scoring repercussions on page six. I haven't had to use those particular scoring rules in a looooong time. Corsair, I hope you had CWT give you overtemp protection, because I think this unit is going to need it.
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I honestly thought the 430 was a decent psu for how cheap it is, even read johnnyguru's review and he gave it an 8.5. Would it still be plausible to run an FX6300+GTX950 combo on one or would it eventually wear the psu to the bone?
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I honestly thought the 430 was a decent psu for how cheap it is, even read johnnyguru's review and he gave it an 8.5. Would it still be plausible to run an FX6300+GTX950 combo on one or would it eventually wear the psu to the bone?
Its cheap for a reason and that reason is its not all that good.

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/#.VhDs-T2SouV

Edited by shilka - 10/4/15 at 2:10am
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I honestly thought the 430 was a decent psu for how cheap it is, even read johnnyguru's review and he gave it an 8.5. Would it still be plausible to run an FX6300+GTX950 combo on one or would it eventually wear the psu to the bone?
Its cheap for a reason and that reason is its not all that good.

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/#.VhDs-T2SouV
The 500B looks like its a little bit better and only a couple bucks more, I could probably use that instead.

I would like to go with something like the Corsair CS450M or a Seasonic S12II but they aren't in budget range, and even if they were, would it really benefit from having one or the other? I mean I would think so if I was running higher end hardware but as it stands I feel like the 500B would suffice. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fnpGCJ
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The 500B looks like its a little bit better and only a couple bucks more, I could probably use that instead.

I would like to go with something like the Corsair CS450M or a Seasonic S12II but they aren't in budget range, and even if they were, would it really benefit from having one or the other? I mean I would think so if I was running higher end hardware but as it stands I feel like the 500B would suffice. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fnpGCJ
About the best in that price range is the XFX TS which is a rebranded Seasonic S12IIB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013&cm_re=XFX_TS-_-17-207-013-_-Product

Its better then the EVGA 500B.

The 450 watt version is a litte bit cheaper
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX12V-Power-Supply-P1450SGREN/dp/B013UFQ2CG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1443977401&sr=8-8&keywords=XFX+TS
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The 500B looks like its a little bit better and only a couple bucks more, I could probably use that instead.

I would like to go with something like the Corsair CS450M or a Seasonic S12II but they aren't in budget range, and even if they were, would it really benefit from having one or the other? I mean I would think so if I was running higher end hardware but as it stands I feel like the 500B would suffice. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fnpGCJ
About the best in that price range is the XFX TS which is a rebranded Seasonic S12IIB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013&cm_re=XFX_TS-_-17-207-013-_-Product

Its better then the EVGA 500B.

The 450 watt version is a litte bit cheaper
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX12V-Power-Supply-P1450SGREN/dp/B013UFQ2CG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1443977401&sr=8-8&keywords=XFX+TS
Thanks, the 450 watt seems to be the most reasonable price wise. I keep looking at the 500B and 430 though and really I'm not seeing too much of a difference between those and the XFX TS. Keep in mind I'm looking at the portion of the tests where the unit is being tested at 230/280 watts, since that is the most realistic load scenario for this build.
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once ur system get cooked from bad psu biggrin.gif dont forget to get a toothpick and marshmallow
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