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Sure AMDs prove they aren't fainthearted like the Intels!
what are you talking about under ln2 they look at 8ghz and 2.0v and say keep my cold bably and ill work fine and after it all they work for a while at least but still
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R.I.P to your fx 4300 and most likely everything else in your system...
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what are you talking about under ln2 they look at 8ghz and 2.0v and say keep my cold bably and ill work fine and after it all they work for a while at least but still

Under LN2 everything is "tough". rolleyes.gif Do you see here negative temperatures being a hinderance?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2468/6

No! Intels degrade on air even by running Prime95 and they call that "normal initial degradation". Yeah, right. Give an Intel to Iwamotto and let's see how many hours it stands.

Iwamotto could test both and write an article: "Intel vs AMD: which one degrades and dies faster. A new approach in enthusiast overclocking" thumb.gif

And i wouldn't bet 1 eurocent on the Intel. biggrin.gif

If he could standardize the tests, draft a protocol, he could actually pass in history, for inventing the "Tetsu method" of testing CPU toughness.
Edited by Undervolter - 7/19/14 at 7:21am
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My old fx8350 used to run at 74c full load 86c?? core (core temps were estimated since i did not have softwares that dectect core temps)no degrading ever happened to it, my4300 never been over 90c and hasen't even degraded a percent after 44hours and more of stress testing, sure amd will take some beating as long as its not past82c at full load, as for the fx8350 she wnt on1・72v idle for 11hours at 5ghz 50c core idle it was on a evo 212 with 4 fans it normaly runs at bout 1・5v after that the cpu showed no degration (my8350 has been into pure alchool by accdent after 30hours of usage and it was half dead.... but still did 4・8ghz stable at 1・644v full load 24/7 on my watee cooler plain multiplier oc )

You're being a little dense, my delusional little friend.

How could you possibly claim that your chip "hasn't degraded a percent" after just 44 hours? Degradation is long-term, and brutal when the chip does die.

I applaud you for not crossing 90c on your chip. Congratlations. That's quite a feat. Glad you never crossed AMD's temperature threshold of 90c thumb.gif
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Iwamotto could test both and write an article: "Intel vs AMD: which one degrades and dies faster. A new light in enthusiast overclocking" thumb.gif
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You're being a little dense, my delusional little friend.

How could you possibly claim that your chip "hasn't degraded a percent" after just 44 hours? Degradation is long-term, and brutal when the chip does die.

I applaud you for not crossing 90c on your chip. Congratlations. That's quite a feat. Glad you never crossed AMD's temperature threshold of 90c thumb.gif

He is not delusional. He is just fearless and brings honour to the name he bears.
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Subsequent assignments were Truk Atoll in the Carolines and the Philippines, being commissioned an ensign in October 1944. Following evacuation of the Philippines, Iwamoto served in home defense and trained kamikaze pilots.

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Just like his 4300 survived.


If he likes doing this and paying his own CPUs, where's the problem? It's interesting to say the least!

Iwamoto Heika banzai! biggrin.gif Wear your hachimaki and overclock away!
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Iwamotto could test both and write an article: "Intel vs AMD: which one degrades and dies faster. A new light in enthusiast overclocking" thumb.gif
He is not delusional. He is just fearless and brings honour to the name he bears.

Just like his 4300 survived.


If he likes doing this and paying his own CPUs, where's the problem? It's interesting to say the least!

Iwamoto Heika banzai! biggrin.gif Wear your hachimaki and overclock away!

1. Is he brave? Yes.

2. Is he allowed to do what he wants, since it's his CPU? Definitely.

3. Does be bring honor to the name he bears? Heck no.

Sorry, Undervolter. The guy is delusional. Back during the Core 2 Duo days, I was a lot like him, pushing insane voltages on my E4500 (I had a particularly bad overclocker) with my own perception of what the safety threshold was.

While it is interesting to see how well AMD chips take a beating, and while it's nice to finally have someone with the guts to do so, he has an extremely wrong concept of overclocking.

If everything was as simple as turning on the computer, pushing any random (insane) voltage in the BIOS and stressing the CPU, more than half this forum wouldn't exist.






.............Unless you were being sarcastic
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1. Is he brave? Yes.

2. Is he allowed to do what he wants, since it's his CPU? Definitely.

3. Does be bring honor to the name he bears? Heck no.

Sorry, Undervolter. The guy is delusional. Back during the Core 2 Duo days, I was a lot like him, pushing insane voltages on my E4500 (I had a particularly bad overclocker) with my own perception of what the safety threshold was.

While it is interesting to see how well AMD chips take a beating, and while it's nice to finally have someone with the guts to do so, he has an extremely wrong concept of overclocking.

If everything was as simple as turning on the computer, pushing any random (insane) voltage in the BIOS and stressing the CPU, more than half this forum wouldn't exist.

He is still so young! Give him 10 years and he may become an expert in extreme overclocking! biggrin.gif I m sure that after several posts in this thread he has understood that he isn't overclocking in any "known" way. So he wants to push the limits? Well, let him! With time, the novelty will wear out and he will become a very good, conventional overclocker. The best extreme overclocker, is the one that has pushed and passed the limits. Ask Johan here how many "accidents" he has had! biggrin.gif

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.............Unless you were being sarcastic

I find the whole story entertaining, we 're at page 14 and people still hope to make him change his ways. Well, apparently he doesn't want to! So, what am i supposed to do, kill him? He is young, if he doesn't mind buying new CPUs, let him do his thing, it seems he is enjoying it, so why shouldn't i too? Surely the forum is less boring with him here. thumb.gif And well, there was a kamikaze instructor with that name!
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Under LN2 everything is "tough". rolleyes.gif Do you see here negative temperatures being a hinderance?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2468/6

No! Intels degrade on air even by running Prime95 and they call that "normal initial degradation". Yeah, right. Give an Intel to Iwamotto and let's see how many hours it stands.

Iwamotto could test both and write an article: "Intel vs AMD: which one degrades and dies faster. A new approach in enthusiast overclocking" thumb.gif

And i wouldn't bet 1 eurocent on the Intel. biggrin.gif

If he could standardize the tests, draft a protocol, he could actually pass in history, for inventing the "Tetsu method" of testing CPU toughness.
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1. Is he brave? Yes.

2. Is he allowed to do what he wants, since it's his CPU? Definitely.

3. Does be bring honor to the name he bears? Heck no.

Sorry, Undervolter. The guy is delusional. Back during the Core 2 Duo days, I was a lot like him, pushing insane voltages on my E4500 (I had a particularly bad overclocker) with my own perception of what the safety threshold was.

While it is interesting to see how well AMD chips take a beating, and while it's nice to finally have someone with the guts to do so, he has an extremely wrong concept of overclocking.

If everything was as simple as turning on the computer, pushing any random (insane) voltage in the BIOS and stressing the CPU, more than half this forum wouldn't exist.






.............Unless you were being sarcastic
oh so true but i dunno the amd chip seems to be the M1 Abrams tank of CPU durably but i play it safe here 4.5ghz at like 1.45v i think never passes 40 degrees and on hot days i stick it back on stock clocks to keep it all happy what im saying is he is a what my avatar would call a demon in a bad way
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nope not one bit

Oh sorry, Intels don't degrade. They "break-in". biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1409797/the-haswell-death-degradation-thread


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He is still so young! Give him 10 years and he may become an expert in extreme overclocking! biggrin.gif I m sure that after several posts in this thread he has understood that he isn't overclocking in any "known" way. So he wants to push the limits? Well, let him! With time, the novelty will wear out and he will become a very good, conventional overclocker. The best extreme overclocker, is the one that has pushed and passed the limits. Ask Johan here how many "accidents" he has had! biggrin.gif
I find the whole story entertaining, we 're at page 14 and people still hope to make him change his ways. Well, apparently he doesn't want to! So, what am i supposed to do, kill him? He is young, if he doesn't mind buying new CPUs, let him do his thing, it seems he is enjoying it, so why shouldn't i too? Surely the forum is less boring with him here. thumb.gif And well, there was a kamikaze instructor with that name!

Sigh.

What the hell........fire away!

My favorite part is the 90c threshold biggrin.gifwheee.gif
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