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Other forums suggest just having Z97 is worth the extra cost and I plan to upgrade to the fastest 1150 i7 maybe 2years later. What's the noticeable difference of 87 vs 97 chipsets anyway? stock performance and OC or anything?

z97 is the newer version of z87 that supports haswell refresh out of the box and broadwell (z87 supports haswell refresh/dc with bios update, but probably never broadwell)

The most important differences are between z97 and h81, b85, h87 for example - not z97 and z87 which are pretty similar

z87/z97 is the OC chipset. All of the boards support the fastest stock CPU's
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Im thinking of getting a G3258 setup over the holidays to play with and then ultimately use for secondary media streaming and light gaming. Ideally I would like to do this as cheap as possible while still getting decent enough parts, enough OC potential, and to narrow it down even more, mATX in either all black, black/white/grey, or mostly black and slight accent colors if I have to.

I know a lot of the boards required a different CPU to get into the BIOS and be able to update it to finally support the G3258, has anything changed there? Like have manufacturers updated their older boards so the G3258 can work out of the box or am I still stuck with a Z#7 or maybe a few other boards to not have to buy an extra CPU for 10 minutes of use?

So far I came across a few options under $100 that I hope would work fine. I put my cap at 100, but obviously prefer as low as possible that meets my requirements.
Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H $84
Asus Gryphon Z87 $95 after $30 rebate.
Gigabyte GA-Z97M-DS3H $60 including $10 rebate. This so far seems to be the best option for price, yes?

Please comment and make suggestions if you can help me narrow down what I should/shouldn't buy for this task.
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Please comment and make suggestions if you can help me narrow down what I should/shouldn't buy for this task.

From the motherboards you list, the Gigabyte H97 and Z97 should support the G3258 natively, and the Asus Z87 has the possibility to upgrade the bios directly from USB stick (if it doesn't already support the chip).
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Yea sorry if I didnt make it clear, I was mostly wondering if things changed regarding the like H87, B85, and whatever other non-Z boards. I assume the current left over stock will still not support the G3258 without an updated bios (manufacturers didn't reflash their boards at some point)?

Also I dont know how to tell if the board will be good enough for overclocking. Im not sure if people usually check reviews or what specs tell them how much freedom a certain board has, but I couldnt find anything on the GA-Z97M-DS3H in particular which is currently my top choice if it will work since its at a great price. There is info on the Z97M-D3H (No S after the D), but that one is a different board and higher priced.
The only main negative thing I found so far on the DS3H is that it only has 2 fan headers, 1 CPU and 1 system fan, where as most others have more like 3 system fan headers, but I suppose I can add a splitter or power off of the PSU so it might not matter. With the limited fan header feature I am worried it might be missing out on some other key things to provide decent overclocking since it is also a pretty small mATX board 8.9"x7.6" instead of the more standard 9.6"x9.6". I realize its a Z series board which I understand usually means its more built for overclocking, but I want to be sure this will do the job.

The Gryphon is a pretty cool board in my opinion, but I dont know if its worth the extra $35 $25 (with $10 off new customer) over the Z97M-DS3H (unless this board wont be good enough), its probably my second choice, but Im sure i overlooked some other mobo options not listed.
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Has anyone succesfully overclocked the Pentium G3258 on a Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2PV or Asus H81M-C?
Edited by kyrcy - 12/17/14 at 1:27pm
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Has anyone succesfully overclocked the Pentium G3258 on a Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2PV or Asus H81M-C?


4.6GHz @ 1.3v on the ASUS H81M-C

Subsequent poster also has the same mobo and couldn't OC using the same settings. So caveat emptor.

Have a look at this thread for a list of mobo's that are proven to OC the G3258: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

ETA: Looks like he signed up on here and got it to work after all.
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When i was about to give up trying to OC my G3258 on a H81 motherboard .. i finally managed to do it!!!

The problem was with the bios flashing, for some reason it wasn't being flashed completly right with etiflash and Q-flash, after forcing a whole bios flash with FPT (-rewrite and -f switches) i was able to boot into windows.

I also had to use a beta bios i got from Gigabyte to be able to set the VCore higher than 1.2v .

Here is a proof of my G3258 running at 4,4GHz



Almost 8h... i'm going to run it for 24h before i call it 100% stable (it wasnt with 1.3v VCore), i know the core temperatures are on the limit but i guess it should be fine.


CPU Clock Ratio: 44
Mem Multiplier: 13.33
Advanced CPU Core Settings: Everything on Auto (even C states)
K OC: Enabled

CPU VRIN Voltage: 1.9v
CPU Vcore: 1.4v

As a last note, my 1600MHz ram can get to 1400MHz with default values and XMP profile (even tho this processor only supports 1333), i know the gain from 1333Mhz is not appreciable but just for fun i will try later if it is also stable at 1400MHz.

Edited by emc_2 - 12/18/14 at 12:27am
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Hi guys, i'm not sure if this is the best performance i can get from my build but at least it's stable, @4.2 | 3.8 unCore | 1.2v
my mobo it's blocked at 1.2v because is h81 mITX. my question is if those settings are ok? because a dont have any more voltage.

at 3.9 or 3.7 unCore, Windows crash. I really like to take more performance from my g3258 but this is the best i can. any comments?
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Just ordered one of these for an Asrock Q87M vPro board and will let you know how it goes - should have the chip by Friday
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Hello guys, what is the main differnce between h81/h87 and b85? I googled that b85 is more of a business chipset while h81/87 is more of a personal chipset, any insight on that?
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B85 chipset lacks many of the performance features that it's H and Z siblings have. This article goes into detail about the subject: http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z87-H87-H81-Q87-Q85-B85-What-is-the-difference-473/
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