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The Z87M OCF is a better choice than the Z97M OCF in pretty much every regard. Went from a digital VRM design to analog/hybrid. The Z97M doesn't even have a Q Code display, so you wouldn't know why your overclock fails.

You only get that killer crap network chip instead of the Intel NIC that used to be on the Z87M. Going online with a fresh Windows installation? Nope. Download that driver first on another machine, put it on a pen drive and install. Or travel back in time to 1999 and put the driver disc in your then-existant optical drive.

It also omits the Display Port that used to be present, so driving a 1440p display over IGP? Out of luck.

Speaking of RAM slots, both the Z97 and Z97M OCF force you to remove the graphics card if you want to switch memory. If you're using water-cooling like me (and switch kits frequently), that's a big pain in the neck.
On the Z87M, no big deal. Single sided latches, swapping mems with graphics card installed no trouble.

Seems like so many problems were already solved, but made an issue again this gen.
Edited by aerotracks - 10/7/14 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by Dyaems View Post

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but does the G3258 work OC-wise when installed on an Asus H81M-E after a bios update? Also, do I need to install small heatsinks/heatspreaders on the VRMs, or just have a decent cooling setup?

Thanks!

I really don't see how you're going to sink that board's vrm.. there's just no easy way to apply big pieces..

As long as you're not pushing it super hard for 24/7, you should be ok all the way up to 100 watts... much more... you'd be running lean.
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Originally Posted by aerotracks View Post

The Z87M OCF is a better choice than the Z97M OCF in pretty much every regard. Went from a digital VRM design to analog/hybrid. The Z97M doesn't even have a Q Code display, so you wouldn't know why your overclock fails.

You only get that killer crap network chip instead of the Intel NIC that used to be on the Z87M. Going online with a fresh Windows installation? Nope. Download that driver first on another machine, put it on a pen drive and install. Or travel back in time to 1999 and put the driver disc in your then-existant optical drive.

It also omits the Display Port that used to be present, so driving a 1440p display over IGP? Out of luck.

Speaking of RAM slots, both the Z97 and Z97M OCF force you to remove the graphics card if you want to switch memory. If you're using water-cooling like me (and switch kits frequently), that's a big pain in the neck.
On the Z87M, no big deal. Single sided latches, swapping mems with graphics card installed no trouble.

Seems like so many problems were already solved, but made an issue again this gen.
Damm, so Z97 is a straight up downgrade from Z87? I was thinking of switching to Z97 if Broadwell was something special but probably not now.
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Damm, so Z97 is a straight up downgrade from Z87? I was thinking of switching to Z97 if Broadwell was something special but probably not now.
i do not think there will be a 4.0/4.4ghz i7 on broadwell release.

Evey die shrink takes away oc overhead too.
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Damm, so Z97 is a straight up downgrade from Z87? I was thinking of switching to Z97 if Broadwell was something special but probably not now.

Well I still like the big Z97 OCF (I own it).. but the Z97M in my opinion doesn't deserve the overclocking in its name.

So deciding on a mATX board, I went with a used Z87M, which has been working great for me - I'm able to dial in the same voltages on the Z87M as on the big Z97 OCF.

The Z87M actually is the board I tested all my G3258 on.
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Well I still like the big Z97 OCF (I own it).. but the Z97M in my opinion doesn't deserve the overclocking in its name.

So deciding on a mATX board, I went with a used Z87M, which has been working great for me - I'm able to dial in the same voltages on the Z87M as on the big Z97 OCF.

The Z87M actually is the board I tested all my G3258 on.
with haswell it mostly the cpu.

The difference in one "z" mobo to another is rarely ever even 100mhz or .020 less vcore for same clocks.

I dont much experience with asrock. My h87 pro4 has been decent though.
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i do not think there will be a 4.0/4.4ghz i7 on broadwell release.

Evey die shrink takes away oc overhead too.
OK gotcha. Probably run what I got for a while.
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Well I still like the big Z97 OCF (I own it).. but the Z97M in my opinion doesn't deserve the overclocking in its name.

So deciding on a mATX board, I went with a used Z87M, which has been working great for me - I'm able to dial in the same voltages on the Z87M as on the big Z97 OCF.

The Z87M actually is the board I tested all my G3258 on.
For $70, the G3258 is pretty fun to kick around though.
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So z87m for the win? I'm gonna get a new board, 3.8GHz out of this chip is just not enough of an overclock to see real performance gains over stock, and a 600MHz overclock is weak. My old 478 pin Prescott Pentium was 3Ghz stock and its been running at 4.0Ghz for about a decade now, still runs great.
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I really don't see how you're going to sink that board's vrm.. there's just no easy way to apply big pieces..

As long as you're not pushing it super hard for 24/7, you should be ok all the way up to 100 watts... much more... you'd be running lean.

Thanks, so the Asus H81M-E would work for the G3258? I searched around the web and there was some people who used the board, I just want a confirmation of some sorts. About the VRM, I was thinking to put those small RAM heatsink on top of the VRM because I have alot of those. Athough I'm not sure if doing that will improve anything at all.

I would probably run it at least 4.0ghz depending on how the chip will push through. I will also be using a Cryorig C1 for the CPU cooler so that the fan will also blow air on the VRM area.
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