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Okay very good performance for him kinda 50-60% faster than piledriver..... but it just cant beat FX 6300 1 core per module with mantle.

You do know you can enable Mantle with an Intel CPU?
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I don't think people are expecting this $60 g3258 to be future proof. The future proofing comes from how you can upgrade to the i5-4690k or i7-4790k in a year or two when they are cheap on ebay. That's my intention at least.

Also it's price/performance is unrivaled, I think its a great chip for what it was designed to be, but hey I'm biased.

Precisely. My intentions, once I buy it are to maybe use it for
6-8 months and by then I will have saved enough to get an i5.
Once that's done, the Pentium will find a home in a new HTPC.

The option to do that, the OC potential and the price is what's
so great about this chip and why the majority of ppl are going
to purchase it.

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Well what do you know, all it took was a restart to fix the sound. rolleyes.gif
I'll do that Battlefield 3 video now. biggrin.gif

Great. Keeping my eyes peeled. thumb.gif
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You do know you can enable Mantle with an Intel CPU?

yes, but it will it help? Mantle is not optimized for dual cores... maybe it will maybe it wont depends on the game.. Thief 2014 you wont see difference between mantle vs Dx11 on dual cores

MS and Sony coud use steamroller cores which would be better for games- easy optimization. 4 steamroller cores = 8 jaguar cores.. while steamroller is more efficient than jaguar. But why did they use jaguar?

Yes jaguar has perfect multithreading - really strong at 2.0Ghz (Athlon 5350) - FX 4300 cant compare with it at 2.0Ghz. But what happens with dual cores when you optimized game engine for dual or 6-8 core CPU.
So it is better to have low power 8 core or high performance dual core?
Which would give you more performance? if you optimized BF4 for dual core which is as fast as low power 8 core? Or low power 8 core if you optimize game for 8 core CPU?

In the time when BF3 was released mostly people use dual cores that why game runs good on dual cores.

I am trying to figure it out.
Edited by Themisseble - 7/11/14 at 1:02pm
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yes, but it will it help? Mantle is not optimized for dual cores... maybe it will maybe it wont depends on the game.. Thief 2014 you wont see difference between mantle vs Dx11 on dual cores

Why do you keep assuming that X is optimized for N cores? You've made almost 200 posts on this subject and you're still stuck on that fallacy.
post #185 of 4581
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

yes, but it will it help? Mantle is not optimized for dual cores... maybe it will maybe it wont depends on the game.. Thief 2014 you wont see difference between mantle vs Dx11 on dual cores

MS and Sony coud use steamroller cores which would be better for games- easy optimization. 4 steamroller cores = 8 jaguar cores.. while steamroller is more efficient than jaguar. But why did they use jaguar?

Yes jaguar has perfect multithreading - really strong at 2.0Ghz (Athlon 5350) - FX 4300 cant compare with it at 2.0Ghz. But what happens with dual cores when you optimized game engine for dual or 6-8 core CPU.
So it is better to have low power 8 core or high performance dual core?
Which would give you more performance? if you optimized BF4 for dual core which is as fast as low power 8 core? Or low power 8 core if you optimize game for 8 core CPU?

In the time when BF3 was released mostly people use dual cores that why game runs good on dual cores.

I am trying to figure it out.

You realize Mantle reduces CPU overhead... weaker CPUs benefit more from Mantle, things like dual core CPUs.


I really want to bash my head in talking to you. You would get a more intelligent response talking to a cat.
 
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why not both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because More money = worse Price/Performance ratio.. that' s the whole point of g3258.. A better cooler is also unnecessary.. The stock cooler can handle 4.8 after delid biggrin.gif
post #187 of 4581
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Precisely. My intentions, once I buy it are to maybe use it for
6-8 months and by then I will have saved enough to get an i5.
Once that's done, the Pentium will find a home in a new HTPC.

The option to do that, the OC potential and the price is what's
so great about this chip and why the majority of ppl are going
to purchase it.
Great. Keeping my eyes peeled. thumb.gif

Here's a short video, video 1 and 2 up now..
I'll try and include my CPU usage in my next videos, although I might make MSI Afterburner's OSD a little smaller though.
Aside from the terrible playing, the CPU is running max usage most of the time in both videos.
Edited by TopicClocker - 7/11/14 at 4:47pm
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Anyone overclocking these bad boys with the MSI Z97 PC Mate? For some reason I can't increase the vcore passed 1.30v redface.gif

edit: Nevermind, seems a bios update fixes it.
Edited by wholeeo - 7/11/14 at 2:10pm
post #189 of 4581
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yes, but it will it help? Mantle is not optimized for dual cores... maybe it will maybe it wont depends on the game.. Thief 2014 you wont see difference between mantle vs Dx11 on dual cores

MS and Sony coud use steamroller cores which would be better for games- easy optimization. 4 steamroller cores = 8 jaguar cores.. while steamroller is more efficient than jaguar. But why did they use jaguar?

Yes jaguar has perfect multithreading - really strong at 2.0Ghz (Athlon 5350) - FX 4300 cant compare with it at 2.0Ghz. But what happens with dual cores when you optimized game engine for dual or 6-8 core CPU.
So it is better to have low power 8 core or high performance dual core?
Which would give you more performance? if you optimized BF4 for dual core which is as fast as low power 8 core? Or low power 8 core if you optimize game for 8 core CPU?

In the time when BF3 was released mostly people use dual cores that why game runs good on dual cores.

I am trying to figure it out.

What? Mantle is optimized to reduce cpu overhead and would make the pentium so much better
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post #190 of 4581
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You realize Mantle reduces CPU overhead... weaker CPUs benefit more from Mantle, things like dual core CPUs.


I really want to bash my head in talking to you. You would get a more intelligent response talking to a cat.
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What? Mantle is optimized to reduce cpu overhead and would make the pentium so much better

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?page=10&t=2374258
yes I am stupid ...

You dont realize right? figure it out smartboy...personally if i were you i would not buy Amd R9 290... WHY? You will have only problems with mantle!
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