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post #201 of 4581
This is my best so far. Its a valid realtemp prime95 bench freq and voltage. 4848.71 MHz 1.482 v max 80C, water cooled

http://valid.canardpc.com/sv7x80
post #202 of 4581
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

we are not talking about pentium G3220 performance... i am talking about mantle performance on dual core CPU. Mantle will never show its real potencial because games are optimized for DX11.. there would be big difference if game would be optimized only for mantle.

You can do something very usefull - show CPU+GPu graph in Bf3

No, you are talking about G3220 performance unless you can prove that the bad performance in Mantle is not due to G3220's lack of CPU cycles available at 3.0 GHz, but a fundamental limitation of dual cores.

Again, you're still stuck on the fallacy that if something has N heavy weight threads, it can't run well on X (X << N) cores. Your OS is swapping out several thousand threads every second to maintain an illusion of simultaneous computation, but you're completely happy with it since there's enough CPU time available for all the threads.
post #203 of 4581
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

You tell me

I know what is the difference between 3.0Ghz and 4.4GHz... believe me i would buy that CPU if games would still use old engines.

Are you sure?
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

here are some benchmarks pentium G3258 vs FX 4300 Mantle/DX11

http://udteam.tistory.com/639

even Oc-ed pentium cant compare against Fx 4300 in mantle.


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Originally Posted by TopicClocker View Post

Are you seriously insinuating the G3258 (Which can be clocked upwards of 4.2GHz) is the G3220 which has a clock of 3.0GHz and a locked multiplier?

Edited by TopicClocker - 7/11/14 at 4:24pm
post #204 of 4581
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Originally Posted by TopicClocker View Post

Are you sure?

Look at these benchmarks... BF4 boost mantle CPU (we dont know if this is Mp or SP) but in Theif mantle slows down pentium
post #205 of 4581
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

Look at these benchmarks... BF4 boost mantle CPU (we dont know if this is Mp or SP) but in Theif mantle slows down pentium

rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif
I'm done.

I'll just walk away from the keyboard a bit.
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Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129 View Post

You realize Mantle reduces CPU overhead... weaker CPUs benefit more from Mantle, things like dual core CPUs.


I really want to bash my head in talking to you.
You would get a more intelligent response talking to a cat.
post #206 of 4581
I don't even know what is all this for. If people buy GPU's strong enough to get bottlenecked by the CPU is because they doing it wrong. This is a toy CPU, something for people to have fun with, it was never meant to be a serious thing. This thread proves just that.
People buy this CPU to learn how to delid, to kill it with overclocks and others that buy it just as a placeholder till they can get something better(broadwell). There are some that actually use it as a gaming CPU but they know the limits of the CPU and they didn't pair it with quad 290x clocked at 1500Mhz on the core each with a custom loop and a dedicated pump plus 480 radiators per GPU.
post #207 of 4581
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Originally Posted by TopicClocker View Post

rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif
I'm done.

I'll just walk away from the keyboard a bit.
See... how you do? When i compare one thing you compare some different thing. I showed you how much will dual core boost CPU GET in games... What ever you do your just showing performnace of dual core CHIP. Yes it is great, but you never compare it to i3?

So this CPU is for OC and fun (not for budget builders), also as "stop gap" for those who will buy and i5/i7 K model near future

And where is the problem? you dont want to listen. YOu recommend this CPU to the people as a stop gap. Yes it is good but for who? While many people will buy GTX 760 or R9 270X this is not good option.

So yes i am stupid and big idiot and big AMD fanboy, because i will say that people are wasting their money when they buy pentium G3258 so they can upgrade next year to an i5. While they could ge i3 and nexzt year they will upgrade ther GPU instead of CPU.

i3 has much more potential than pentium G3258. So what i am trying to tell you that for people who will use midrange GPU or lower (GTX 770/R9 280X) i3 or even FX 6300 is right choice. I prefer i3 for them (better MB)... but you cannot say that FX 6300 dont represent best build for midrange GPU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VJ32w8pknU
even older i3 will destroy OCed pentium in new well optimized games.
Edited by Themisseble - 7/11/14 at 5:14pm
post #208 of 4581
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

YOu recommend this CPU to the people as a stop gap. Yes it is good but for who? While many people will buy GTX 760 or R9 270X this is not good option.

Woah woah woah. I never, ever recommended this CPU. If you check a few pages back on this very same thread the post #4 you'll see that 4 days ago I said an OC'ed G3258 is on par with a stock i3. Stock i3 runs on stock heatsink and on any motherboard.
So please don't put words in my mouth. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Themisseble View Post

So yes i am stupid and big idiot and big AMD fanboy, because i will say that people are wasting their money when they buy pentium G3258 so they can upgrade next year to an i5. While they could ge i3 and nexzt year they will upgrade ther GPU instead of CPU.

i3 has much more potential than pentium G3258. So what i am trying to tell you that for people who will use midrange GPU or lower (GTX 770/R9 280X) i3 or even FX 6300 is right choice. I prefer i3 for them (better MB)... but you cannot say that FX 6300 dont represent best build for midrange GPU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VJ32w8pknU
even older i3 will destroy OCed pentium in new well optimized games.
If you want to say what is on bold you could've just said it. If you roll a few pages back you'll find a post of mine saying that an unlocked i3 would murder everything out there for gaming.
So I am most certainly on the same page as you, performance wise the i3 is always better. Longevity wise too. It is also simpler, it needs no overclocking.

But like I said, this CPU is something to play with... so yea...

@OP Please put Spoiler tags on your 1st post, its getting way too long...
Edited by Tokkan - 7/11/14 at 5:36pm
post #209 of 4581


managed 4.8Ghz at 1.42V. Core 0 was under 87C most of the time where core 1 stayed around 75C. Anyone know why these differ so much, could it be the thermal paste spread? Are these temps too high?
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post #210 of 4581
@Tokkan
yes i3 K model... but we can only dream
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