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Need some advice here. I have been working on my OC here is where I am at:

CPU: 4.3ghz @ 1.315v
Ring: 4.0ghz @ 1.215v
VCCIN: @ 2.0v

Prime95: 30 Minutes stable max temp 88c
Aida64: 10 minutes stable max temp 84c

CPU Voltage at 1.3 was unstable, 1.325 was too hot 90+ in prime
Ring: 1.2v was unstable.
VCCIN: 1.8 was unstable past 4ghz cpu, 1.9 was good at 4.2 but unstable at 4.3. 1.95 unstable at 4.3. 2.0 is stable

CPU 4.4ghz was unstable and too hot at 1.35v

I am running the stock cooler. I have a hyper 212 on the way. I know I am on the threshold for temps but not worried. They will go down when I get the new cooler installed.

Haven't touched memory or anything else. These are just notes from my OC I have done today. Where do I go next?

Im almost the exact same boat as you. Around the same temps using the stock cooler. Got a Cooler Master Hyper T4 on the way from Amazon.com . Still I was surprised to clock this thing @4.3ghz+ on the stock cooler while staying under 85c, playing Battlefield 4 (which to me is one of the best stability tests). Went from all low setting @ 3.2, to med-high settings @ 4.4ghz, with BETTER frames per second.
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Anyone getting around 10C difference between cores? Not that it bugs me at all, but my Core 0 is about 10C higher than Core 1. I noticed that core 1 does not even fluctuate its temperature that much, around 59-62C, while core 0 goes up to 73C while stressing.

I reseated my cooler and it still gives the same thing. When I removed the cooler, the processor is almost fully covered with TIM so I don't think its the cooler that it is doing the difference in temps. Also, I'm not sure if I'm getting this kind of temp when I first installed the G3258, but I'm guessing they are of the same range in temps.

Maybe I killed something on the chip while stressing since I got alot of BSODs (due to lack of voltage) when trying to go beyond 4.2ghz, but it works fine anyways so its all good.

It's from poor TIM between the IHS and die. Delid it! biggrin.gif
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If you hit 5.0ghz at 1.4 stable air cooled then you'll be the first afaik, IOWA will be jelly wink.gif.


EVERYONE will be jelly... excitedblushplz.gif?1
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Battlefield 4 stats added there (same post) : http://www.overclock.net/t/1500524/intel-pentium-g3258-performance-and-owners-thread/1640#post_22937317

Only played 13min since i don't like that game and i always die smile.gif

average fps were 70 on ultra 1080p, experienced may be 10 lags in those 13 mins but when i tried with Mantle instead of DirectX11 (on the same map with 10 more players) i hadn't experienced any lag and fps were roughly the same.
 
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Can G3258 bottleneck with GTX760 ?

I used a GTX 760 in all of the videos in the OP to date, I've written alot about the processor there too and where it bottlenecks and where it does not, it's not really a simple question but the OP explain it all.

TL;DR
In single-threaded games it wont bottleneck.
In heavily multi-threaded games it will bottleneck.
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When/If games start requiring 4-8 threads to be playable, this CPU will likely struggle, as it does in Star Citizen and Watch Dogs, so it isn't really a future proof CPU
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All in all, this processor will excel in single-thread dependent tasks, and take on chips with inferior single-threaded performance, however will be more likely to perform worse in tasks which are heavily multi-threaded or multi-thread dependent which are becoming more and more frequent in the future of software and game development, it takes advantage of one of AMD's major flaws, their weak core performance and performs better than them in most tasks which demand strong core performance.

This is not the most future proof processor, but I guess it was never meant to be, it is able to topple AMD chips in their fields of weakness and if you can find a use for this CPU it's pretty much untouchable in it's area, it's really affordable and you can practically achieve the single-thread performance of an i5 4790K which has a turbo frequency of 4.4GHz which my processor is running at in most of these benchmarks unless stated otherwise.
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We are approaching a time in game development and games which are becoming to be better multi-threaded, likely as a result of the 8 Jaguar cores in the next gen consoles, such as the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One which aren't particularly great performers by themselves due to their low clock speed and low-power nature, however they rely heavily on multi-threading to perform, which may have an affect on the future of games ported to or from PC.

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Here's a few dirty benchmarks that I ran on my QX6700 clocked @3.34GHz just for comparison's sake.
The 4 cores here perform nearly as good (I wish) as the Pentium's two cores with a moderate overclock.
However the good ol' Kentsfield here consumes at least 2x as much power if not more compared to the
G3258, hence why I'm considering purchasing it along with a Z97 motherboard and some other goodies.

Cinebench R15 - Single Core (87) Quad Core (334)




Black Hole Bench 4 - Total (10140) Multi (3912) Four Threads (3636) Single (2592)




HWBOT Prime Benchmark - Score (4004.29)




Geekbench 3 (Tryout 32-bit) - Single (1814) Multi (6340)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1043141




Any thoughts ?
Should I change/upgrade ?
Yay or nay ?

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Awesome, have you thought about an i3 at all?
The reason I ask that is because the four threads are amazing, the G3258's main problem is it's multi-threaded performance, if it had one or two more threads it would be even better.

Most i3s may not have as much single-threaded performance as a higher clocked Pentium, but the threads will help it to perform where the G3258 falls short, in games like Star Citizen and Watch Dogs which are pretty heavily multi-threaded. It's pretty much an all-rounder.

The G3258's best competitor is AMD quad cores and even their 6 and 8 cores when they end up performing as quad cores, as a great deal of games of today are single-thread dependent to some degree, which is why it performs so shockingly good in many games, but an i3 is able to use it's advantage in multi-threading to take on pretty much all AMD CPUs in gaming.
Edited by TopicClocker - 10/19/14 at 1:04pm
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I used a GTX 760 in all of the videos in the OP to date, I've written alot about the processor there too and where it bottlenecks and where it does not, it's not really a simple question but the OP explain it all.

TL;DR
In single-threaded games it wont bottleneck.
In heavily multi-threaded games it will bottleneck.



Awesome, have you thought about an i3 at all?
The reason I ask that is because the four threads are amazing, the G3258's main problem is it's multi-threaded performance, if it had one or two more threads it would be even better.

Most i3s may not have as much single-threaded performance as a higher clocked Pentium, but the threads will help it to perform where the G3258 falls short, in games like Star Citizen and Watch Dogs which are pretty heavily multi-threaded. It's pretty much an all-rounder.

The G3258's best competitor is AMD quad cores and even their 6 and 8 cores when they end up performing as quad cores, as a great deal of games of today are single-thread dependent to some degree, which is why it performs so shockingly good in many games, but an i3 is able to use it's advantage in multi-threading to take on pretty much all AMD CPUs in gaming.

If I upgrade from the G3258 it will be for an i7 wink.gif. But I want to see what the future chips will bring to the table. I love this little under dog.
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Some bull**** in that video... Grid Aouto sport only 40 FPS? and pentium g3258 only 60 FPS - both are crap

Athlon OC doesnt gain any fps while intel do... bull****!

Why are people overestimating pentium g3258? Yees it is the best dual core CPU but "dual" .... great for old games but no so for new games. Athlon x3 860K is better choice for new games but athlon x4 860K has no upgrade path.
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Grid uses 100% of my CPU, seems believable. 860k is pretty mediocre like the other Athlons.
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Grid uses 100% of my CPU, seems believable. 860k is pretty mediocre like the other Athlons.

Do you have Bf4? Can you try mantle vs Dx11?
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