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Hello guys.

Im on a very very tight budget and i think im getting G3258+R7 260X for my workstation (photo editing using photoshop, ms office) and some weekend gaming @720p/900p med or high (CS GO/GRID 2/BF4). So what you think guys. Every comments are much appreciated

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The G3258 is only worth getting if you are going to overclock it. If you plan to do that then you will need a Z97 based motherboard or have to use Win 8.1 if you go with an H81 or B85 with overclocking features. Win 10 and non-Z overclocking boards cause BSODs as soon as an overclock is applied. There may be updates by now that correct this, even then, there is no way to know if and when the issue will arise again.

The G3258 and R7 260x are a good pairing performance wise. Personally though I would try and pick up something like a DDR3 based H110 board and an i3 6100 and the R7 260x. The extra threads will be useful both in gaming and photoshop as well as be a little more future proof. Some games may not work on a dual core dual thread CPU but thus far most of these have received patches that add support. Regardless of the patches however the trend of requiring at least 4 threads seems to be catching on so be prepared for new titles simply failing to load on the system in some instances. This is the reason I suggest the i3 6100. At this time I would not recommend an AMD build with Zen so near to release.

If you are looking for a cheaper AMD alternative however I would suggest an A10 7XXX and a decent FM2+ board. With the APU you could forgo the R7 260x and just use the APU graphics which should be acceptable for light gaming at 720p. If you decide you want the R7 260x then get an FM2+ Athlon x4 as you will not need the iGPU, while the G3258 and i3 6100 will both have better single core performance the Athlon x4 has 4 cores and will run every game out there without issue where the G3258 may be problematic on more heavily threaded games and the i3 costs significantly more.

If you are set on the G3258 I would strongly advise a Z87/Z97 board to pair it with, there are some more affordable models now so it shouldn't hurt your budget too much. If overclocking isn't a factor then just go with a locked G3470 and an H81/B85 based board, at 3.6ghz it should still be up to the task of 720p gaming on that GPU.

Overall I enjoyed using my G3258 but ultimately it proved inadequate for gaming, especially with more demanding, multi threaded modern titles. Some games quite literally become a slideshow, even when overclocked to 4.2ghz and over. Lower resolutions only help a fraction as the issue is the CPU load not the GPU. All that said it is still a pretty decent little dual core but if the only reason you were considering it was because you can overclock it then you will be better off with an i3 6100, it blows the G3258 out of the water even with the later heavily overclocked.
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A very good explanation for a 1st time pc builder like me. Thanks sir

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Hello guys.

Im on a very very tight budget and i think im getting G3258+R7 260X for my workstation (photo editing using photoshop, ms office) and some weekend gaming @720p/900p med or high (CS GO/GRID 2/BF4). So what you think guys. Every comments are much appreciated

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Sounds good to me. You'll be able to play most games but as mentioned there will be a few that don't run and probably more in the future. Your call as to how big an issue that is for you. I'm still very happy with myne but have just stayed away from games where it seemed there may be an issue as plenty of other good games I've not had chance to play.

Note the win10 non-z overclock problem I'm almost certain is now fixed. I had renamed the mcupdate file which was the fix to get it working again but when I go look in the folder now there is a new file which windows update must have put there I guess.

Another plus is that it's a pretty easy upgrade down the line to an i5 or something. You will more likely feel a need to upgrade the gpu first though so I would suggest having a look for something like a second hand R9 270 if you can as it might not cost much more but should be a fairly noticeable jump in performance.

For sure going for an i3 now is more future proof but then overclocking the Pentium maybe a bit more fun so your call really, both good options.
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So I've been testing my new i5, with the same mobo (the z97m aniversary). While at stock and voltage at auto, it maxxed at 1.14v, idling at 0.84v. Temps with occt were 56ºc on the hottest core.
Bumped speed to 4ghz (100 mhz+), same auto voltage. Same 1.14v max, 0.84v idle. Same temps.
Bumped to 4.2ghz, but lowered voltage to 1.123v, override mode. max temp 47ºc. With a cm evo 212 push/pull fans at 100% (do not have control over them, 3 pin only). Fully stable so far in everything I'm throwing at him.
My former cpu, the pentium, to reach 4.2ghz would need 1.350-1.375v, and even then it would not be fully stable, having to downgrade sometimes to 4.1ghz and 1.32v. Max temps there were 70s, but never above 80ºc.
What a world of a difference this is, Witcher 3 stuttered even though I had "60" fps, now it's smooth as hell. With the g3258 I had no issues while gaming + streaming, but the stream would stutter. Not anymore.
And I'm still going slow, but hell, these temps and these voltages are giving me hope that I'll be able to reach 4.5-4-6ghz easily and fully stable.
If nothing bad happens to the cpu, I'm good for the next 4-5-6 years, not needing to do an upgrade (unless technology goes forward in a pace unlike we've seen in the last 5 years).
Hell, I tried crysis 3, some options on very high others on high(for testing), I'm always locked at 60 fps :| I couldn't play it on the g3258.
My advice on someone that is thinking on buying the pentium for gaming, if you can wait a little while and save up for an i5, you will save more in the end and be rewarded with an awesome cpu that will last you a long time (if not abused). Like an i5 2500k, they are still around even though they were released in 2011 and they are still viable cpus.
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Hello guys.

Im on a very very tight budget and i think im getting G3258+R7 260X for my workstation (photo editing using photoshop, ms office) and some weekend gaming @720p/900p med or high (CS GO/GRID 2/BF4). So what you think guys. Every comments are much appreciated

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My g3258 4.7ghz r9 270 took some tweaking to get bf4 smooth. The 64mp maps were too much. It had noticeable dips. It could handle 32mp and below fine though.
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Hi guys,

so I've just got an used G3258 from one guy and an OEM msi h81m-p33(bulk - white box) from another probably used as well but they were both sold as a 100% functional and here's my problem, the graphics card runs only at PCIE x2 instead of x16, i've tested it and there's a performance hit, every diagnostic tool also shows this. Now i need to figure out if it's the motherboard's or the CPU's issue, did anyone ever heard about damaging or burning the PCIE links on this CPU or any other haswell CPU? I pretty much blame the board but just want to make sure that it cannot be the CPU's fault. There's nothing to change in the bios of the board and I've excluded a software issue. Thanks for response

So far i'm running it at 4.2Ghz with 1.2V stock cooler and it seems stable, 4.3Ghz at 1.2V succesfully completed IntelBurnTestV2 but it's dropped when the iGPU went under load as well, the guy i bought it from claimed that it was stable at 4.5Ghz on his MB's auto-OC, i don't want to push it too much for now if the mobo is indeed faulty.
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Modern GPUs downclock to a lower lane count to save power when the GPU is idle. Since you don't mention what software you are using to check your PCIE speed, you should open up GPU-Z and start a render test by clicking the little question mark, and see what it says when you hover over the bus interface box. FYI, that board is only a PCIE 2.0 x16. If results are as you stated with only being 2.0 x2, there are a few things to check, but I would like to confirm first through GPU-Z before I tell you that you should tear your computer apart.

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Also sometimes you need a BIOS flash to fix any persnickety PCI-E lane issues.
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Modern GPUs downclock to a lower lane count to save power when the GPU is idle. Since you don't mention what software you are using to check your PCIE speed, you should open up GPU-Z and start a render test by clicking the little question mark, and see what it says when you hover over the bus interface box. FYI, that board is only a PCIE 2.0 x16. If results are as you stated with only being 2.0 x2, there are a few things to check, but I would like to confirm first through GPU-Z before I tell you that you should tear your computer apart.

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Also sometimes you need a BIOS flash to fix any persnickety PCI-E lane issues.

Even when stress testing in GPU-Z it shows that it only runs at 2.0 x2. Is there anything I can try to resolve it?
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