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I've seen quite a few "G3258 and rise of the tombraider" videos and they don't throttle the gpu that much... 85-100% GPU usage with cards stronger than yours...

I'm using game ready drivers.

What area are they running around in? And how much OC do they have over G3258? What resolution? I'm playing it at 1440x900, maximum supported by my monitor.

Most on YT play at 1080p, that might explain higher usage.

Some of the videos on YT which claim to be using G3258, are simulated on i7s, with cores and hyper-threading disabled, as they have more cache, their utilization will be higher.

That's a good point; more cache means the CPU can pull more in from memory and execute it in the faster cache-RAM, which would be a big help in repetitive tasks that just need to run in cache all the time.

I'm actually finding my 4690K even at stock (never mind OCed to only 4 GHz) with turbo turned on isn't noticeably worse than my G3258 @ 4.4 GHz and certainly seems to be smoother all around.
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What area are they running around in? And how much OC do they have over G3258? What resolution? I'm playing it at 1440x900, maximum supported by my monitor.

Shadows are heavy on the CPU, that would be the first place I would take a stab at getting some more FPS. Tomb raider is not as hard to tune as some other recent titles (looking at you Dragon Age!) because you dont have to restart the game to see the effect on FPS and usage. Use a tool like PrecisionX to get your CPU and GPU usage on an overlay, and stand in game where your GPU usage and fps is super low...enter the settings menu, and flipping switches and knobs will show immediately in the overlay what effect they will have on usage and FPS, even on the pause menu. Geothermal Valley is also the pits, I had to tune down pretty heavy at that location with a heavily overclocked 5820k and a pair of 980s. I dont even think that the game is horribly optimized...I just think its that beautiful.

Come to think of it, I should try it on my 3258 rig...although not sure the 6670 is going to be up for the task tongue.gif
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That's a good point; more cache means the CPU can pull more in from memory and execute it in the faster cache-RAM, which would be a big help in repetitive tasks that just need to run in cache all the time.

I'm actually finding my 4690K even at stock (never mind OCed to only 4 GHz) with turbo turned on isn't noticeably worse than my G3258 @ 4.4 GHz and certainly seems to be smoother all around.
Faster might be because G3258 doesn't have AVX extensions, and smoother because of extra cores. Anyway 4690K is high end version of HW, and G3258 is based on first generation of HW. Then there are also RAM timings which would need to be exactly the same for proper comparison.
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I'm able to pickup an i3-4360 for 80$
Should I go for it? Currently running the g3258@4.3ghz. Not sure if it's worth those 80bucks just for gaming.
Edited by Sildur - 2/17/16 at 9:09am
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Where? Microcenter? How much for entry level Haswell i5s?
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I'm able to pickup an i3-4360 for 80$
Should I go for it? Currently running the g3258@4.3ghz. Not sure if it's worth those 80bucks just for gaming.

For the price, I'd pass on it personally. A difference will be there due to HT, but not significant enough to warrant another new purchase of something slightly better. I'd rather put he $80 to a 4690K.
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I'm able to pickup an i3-4360 for 80$
Should I go for it? Currently running the g3258@4.3ghz. Not sure if it's worth those 80bucks just for gaming.

For the price, I'd pass on it personally. A difference will be there due to HT, but not significant enough to warrant another new purchase of something slightly better. I'd rather put he $80 to a 4690K.

I would definitely agree. 4790K if you can swing it, but a 4690K with turbo will be quite comparable to an OCed G3258 and smooth out gameplay for games that depend on multithreading.
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Where? Microcenter? How much for entry level Haswell i5s?
Nah it's just a normal store arround here, they offer some nice discounts on show off products, basicly barely used products that were used as show off products for customers in one of their stores.
Got a GTX960 4GB for 200$ that way. (4gb versions usually cost arround 260$+ here)
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For the price, I'd pass on it personally. A difference will be there due to HT, but not significant enough to warrant another new purchase of something slightly better. I'd rather put he $80 to a 4690K.

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I would definitely agree. 4790K if you can swing it, but a 4690K with turbo will be quite comparable to an OCed G3258 and smooth out gameplay for games that depend on multithreading.
Hm, I see but those cost quite a bit more. Should've also have said I could probably use the g3258 in an unfinished rig laying arround here (currently has no cpu nor ram). That would depend on how much of an upgrade the i3 would be, if at all in terms of gaming. Kinda hard to find benchmarks of that cpu.
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Nah it's just a normal store arround here, they offer some nice discounts on show off products, basicly barely used products that were used as show off products for customers in one of their stores.
Got a GTX960 4GB for 200$ that way. (4gb versions usually cost arround 260$+ here)

Hm, I see but those cost quite a bit more. Should've also have said I could probably use the g3258 in an unfinished rig laying arround here (currently has no cpu nor ram). That would depend on how much of an upgrade the i3 would be, if at all in terms of gaming. Kinda hard to find benchmarks of that cpu.

4790k does cost more, but it's pretty much in another league. The CPU for $80 would've been a decent first CPU purchase if you never bought the G3258 to begin with, especially after achieving a decent overclock. The best comparison for that cpu would be the i3-4170. Same clock, HT, and what not, just 1MB less cache. If you're going to use it with an unfinished build, then I say it would be decent to do, just nothing spectacular.
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Nah it's just a normal store arround here, they offer some nice discounts on show off products, basicly barely used products that were used as show off products for customers in one of their stores.
Got a GTX960 4GB for 200$ that way. (4gb versions usually cost arround 260$+ here)

Because of hyper-threading, it might not suffer from any freezing issues which you might have experienced in games with G3258.
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