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Many of which would have been built despite military involvement.

The military accomplishes so much due to the inordinate budget it receives...not because it's a some how superior branch. Not to mention other issues like schools and hospitals closing down while the government...the one that was created to do what's best for this nation...is spending 100's of millions if not billions to create something like this.

As I said above, imagine if NASA had half the budget the military does...they'd invent all sorts of stuff! I know the most comfortable bed I've ever owned is due to NASA and their development of memory foam!

We're both right but there is one difference.

The military created technology to meet a theological or physical threat. With a purpose and time frame have results faster.

If the free market had the budget it would be interesting but highly patented, unfocused and for profit. Not ideal from my perspective
post #82 of 108
This is pretty cool and very awesome, they can just connect to the power grid from a carrier and have unlimited power, aka the nuclear reactors in each ship could power this thing indefinaty. Plus cheap and effective ammo is always good for the bottom line.
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I love that they note how inexpensive the ammo is without noting the cost of the gun itself, or the fact that unlike an Exocet (unit cost around $4 million) you don't have to strap it to a ship (unit cost around $214 million for the JHSV) in order to utilize it.

Honestly, military funding drives me insane. The Navy, for example, maintains 10 Nimitz class super-carriers. Only 2 other navies in the world (Brazil and France) operate a single carrier apiece even remotely like the Nimitz in aircraft launch capability (CATOBAR) and only the French carrier is Nuclear. Both of those carriers displace at less than half the size of the Nimitz class ships and maintain aircraft complements half the size. When accounting for carriers falling under the STOVL designation (what our navy classes as an Amphibious Assault Ship) the US maintains an additional 10 ships. All told, the rest of the world operates 18 aircraft carriers (most only for short or vertical takeoff craft) while we operate 20. Almost all of those 18 ships operated elsewhere are done so by firm allies of the US. Our navy appears to be built on the presumption that we may one day be forced to face the entirety of the world's navies at once. That's an indictment of our financial priorities and/or our foreign policy.
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I love that they note how inexpensive the ammo is without noting the cost of the gun itself, or the fact that unlike an Exocet (unit cost around $4 million) you don't have to strap it to a ship (unit cost around $214 million for the JHSV) in order to utilize it.


I'm pretty sure most of those announcements are US government marketing for military intimidation. "US did that and that major new gun". If they cared about technology alone, it would be the researchers that did it, it's always a "US asset" that does it.

i.e. It doesn't matter if it works. Get it out there.

Every few months, a new "miracle" news.



inb4 complains of "off topic"

It's perfectly on topic.

You just don't like it.
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All we need now is a REX to carry it and we can all play MGS in real life.
 
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I love that they note how inexpensive the ammo is without noting the cost of the gun itself, or the fact that unlike an Exocet (unit cost around $4 million) you don't have to strap it to a ship (unit cost around $214 million for the JHSV) in order to utilize it.

Honestly, military funding drives me insane. The Navy, for example, maintains 10 Nimitz class super-carriers. Only 2 other navies in the world (Brazil and France) operate a single carrier apiece even remotely like the Nimitz in aircraft launch capability (CATOBAR) and only the French carrier is Nuclear. Both of those carriers displace at less than half the size of the Nimitz class ships and maintain aircraft complements half the size. When accounting for carriers falling under the STOVL designation (what our navy classes as an Amphibious Assault Ship) the US maintains an additional 10 ships. All told, the rest of the world operates 18 aircraft carriers (most only for short or vertical takeoff craft) while we operate 20. Almost all of those 18 ships operated elsewhere are done so by firm allies of the US. Our navy appears to be built on the presumption that we may one day be forced to face the entirety of the world's navies at once. That's an indictment of our financial priorities and/or our foreign policy.

While I don't agree with all of our spending, the world doesn't not operate on carebear stares and hugs.

The last time the US tried to stay out of the affairs of others they were brutally attacked and the Pacific Fleet was decimated in ONE single attack. It is these historical lessons alone which keeps a minimum sized and 100% readiness in our military.

This is why we have nuclear submarines in the ocean doing circles at undisclosed locations, 24/7, through holidays, through countless sacrifices. We have a fleet that can not only repel any attack, it can repel any attack from all sides.

The scenarios of Battlefield 4 were feasible but most likely impossible (from a US Naval stand point). Our systems are EMP shielded for starters, nor would a carrier ever be undefended, nor are most of our systems electrical in nature (they are designed to work with flooding after all.) For every carrier, there is a carrier strike group, for every strike group, there is a carrier escort, both surface and sub-surface with aerial surveillance.

America's military presence is such that every American can grow up without serious fear from anyone else on the planet, and essentially acts as the protective father of a family.

In a time of utopian peace, these war machines are absolutely unnecessary, but until that time, it keeps NATO functioning, they are the primary arm of the United Nations, we defend continental United States, and we support our allies/non-allies in times of natural crisis. The US Naval carriers tied their nuclear reactors to local electrical grids in Sri Lanka and Thailand after the tsunamis for example.

Fiscally, the budget for the entire DoD is 601$ billion, meanwhile the GDP is 17$ trillion, so 3.5% I think we are doing okay budgeting for our military.
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post #87 of 108
As with all insurance policies, you can't buy it after you realize you need it...
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It's too bad there's no happy medium. Isolationist usa woefully unprepared for war or military industrial complex america with more military spending then the rest of the world put together while infrastructure crumbles and half its citizens dont have first world medicare.

Nope, gotta be one or the other. Happy mediums dont exist.
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As with all insurance policies, you can't buy it after you realize you need it...

This.

Better to have it now than later.
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You can thank a majority of the modern tech you use and see today to military funding.

Modern aviation - military
Internet - military
The list goes on and on
Do try to understand the broken window fallacy because you don't know what you're talking about.
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This.

Better to have it now than later.
If you have it now it means you can't afford it later. But you don't give a crap about your (future) children right?
Edited by skruppe - 7/13/14 at 11:12am
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