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Edited by Reboh79 - 7/16/14 at 3:06am
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Your PSU doesn't have a +12V capacity of only 19A because that would be 228W which would basically mean that you have a 250W PSU. Regardless, a good or decent 450W PSU is not the bare minimum for this card. You have overkill here. Actually, what's the brand and model of of your PSU because we should make sure it's even safe to overclock.

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Edited by Reboh79 - 7/16/14 at 3:06am
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Alright, if this thing is as bad as I am thinking it is based on what you just told me, then I would stop overclocking immediately before that PSU dies and kills your entire computer. I'm dead serious. I don't want you to lose anything because of that PSU (and if you keep trying to overclock and test the stability of it, then that could easily happen).

 

Naturally, you can do whatever you want. You can say, "No, I'm having fun. I don't see the harm." That's fine, except what I would say in response to something like that is, "You won't be having fun if that PSU dies or blows up (makes a loud pop sound like a firecracker) and kills your computer".

 

If I were told to stop overclocking because of my PSU, then it would break my heart. However, my heart would break even more if I lost my computer (or even just a part of it) because of the death of my PSU.

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Edited by Reboh79 - 7/16/14 at 3:06am
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It's probably better than that Thermaltake and it's probably safe, but it's still a low-quality waste of money for people like us. What stores are you shopping at?

 

I don't know AMD's hardware to know what's good or bad, but a lot of people on here seem to like the FX-6300.

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Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
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Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
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Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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Edited by Reboh79 - 7/16/14 at 3:06am
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How does one determine the quality of a power supply? I never really grasped how people judge the quality and safety of a power supply just by (presumably) looking it up on the manufacturer's website.

I buy my parts from Newegg, mostly. Their filtering abilities let me narrow down my searches to a few different options and then I use their compare tool and online reviews to make the final decision, along with asking on forums about personal experiences and advice. I had assumed that the EVGA 500B was a decent piece of hardware for a good price.

 

Some people go by professional reviews, or they just know, and sometimes they go by what others say who know. With the 500B, I just go by what I've seen others say on here, and all I get about this PSU is, avoid it.

 

Here's a much better PSU for only $62.98 after shipping, then $52.98 after the $10 rebate card:

 

The 450W Rosewill CAPSTONE (it's supposed to be in all caps): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
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Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
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Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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Normally if you can physically get your hands on a PSU is the best way to tell (higher quality ones seem to be heavier) but other than that, there is mainly the efficiency rating 80 Plus/Bronze/Silver/Gold/Titanium I believe the ratings go. Also the MTBF (Mean time between failures) tends to give a bit of an indication.
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No, those are not ways to judge a PSU's quality. There are plenty (and I mean plenty) of really, really crappy Bronze PSUs, some junker poor-excuse-for-a-PSU Gold ones, and even some clunker Platinum (not Titanium) units. Just because a PSU has received the supposedly-Prestigious "80+ Certification", it doesn't mean anything at all. Sometimes it's a LIE: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu

 

What I'm saying is, there is absolutely no way to judge the quality of a PSU without either looking at professional review sites who know how to review PSUs (quick example: JonnyGURU.com), or you just know, or you go by what experts say. Beyond that, there's nothing you can do to judge the quality of a PSU.

 

Again though, thie article that I linked above really is worth reading. It's so worth it that it's worth linking again just in case it was missed: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu. I'm quite serious about this because it seems more and more people are like, "...and one of my requirements is that it must be a Gold-rated PSU or better because that will guarantee that I get a high-end PSU". That sounds like good reasoning right? I mean, hey: gold is a precious metal. Therefore, anything that's Gold-rated should be pretty high-end. Sadly, that's pure and clever marketing deception.


Edited by TwoCables - 7/12/14 at 1:08am
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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