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MSI 970 Gaming after weird smell and crash (not mine)




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^^ Oh bloody hell, that's not good !! Last time I aw that amount of VRM damage I watched as my beloved MSI Diva Live (AM2+ board with an onboard 5.1 digital amplifier !!) blew and started a teeny tiny fire that caused the smell that many of us have experienced and will never, eveerrrrr ... forget.
devil.gif

I picked up an FX8300 on the cheap to pop into my 970 Gaming, so I'm curious to see if I can wring 4.5 out of it like the current FX6300 I have in there. That chip is at 1.424v, so I'd like to drop that just a touch with the 8300 and see what I get.

Grompf, hopefully your board is still under warranty. I have had this 970 Gaming only 2 months now, but my flaming MSI Diva Live always worries and reminds me what MSI boards with their cheaper mosfets can do from time to time. To be honest, the 970 Gaming replaced an MSI 790X-G45 that I abused for YEARS and it never, ever missed a beat.
 
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Maybe they´ll use eight of those Niko-Semi fets per phase instead of four in the next revision lachen.gifrolleyessmileyanim.gif

"Military-Class", "Top Quality & Stability" indeed.
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Originally Posted by WalkinTarget View Post

^^ Oh bloody hell, that's not good !! Last time I aw that amount of VRM damage I watched as my beloved MSI Diva Live (AM2+ board with an onboard 5.1 digital amplifier !!) blew and started a teeny tiny fire that caused the smell that many of us have experienced and will never, eveerrrrr ... forget.
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Like I said it is luckily not mine smile.gif
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Maybe they´ll use eight of those Niko-Semi fets per phase instead of four in the next revision lachen.gifrolleyessmileyanim.gif

"Military-Class", "Top Quality & Stability" indeed.
I think theres a diffrence between both.
Both can be military class 2 3 or 4.
Millitary class deterimins mainly the chokes and capacitors used.
If they have not advertised DRMos during military class desctription that means they have no drmos.

We can see some boards are military class4, some has drmos and some dosen't.
The one that dosen't have no discription about drmos

For instance 990 gd65 has no DRMOS and we see no where in desctiption takling about drmos
This means 990 gaming isn't designged to be overclocking. Its for gamming as advertised

http://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/990FXA-GD80.html#hero-overview
http://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/990FXA-GD65.html#hero-overview




http://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/X99S-MPOWER.html#hero-overview
http://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/990FXA-GAMING.html#hero-overview
990 gaming vs Mpower 99

By the way, if they use 8 mosfets instead of 4 it may equate to more power capple of outputing. which means better vrms than DRMOS
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When I saw "Nikos" in the opening pics of this thread I knew it couldn't end well....

Same old MSI, doing it on the cheap at our "Expense".
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Originally Posted by Kryton View Post

When I saw "Nikos" in the opening pics of this thread I knew it couldn't end well....

Same old MSI, doing it on the cheap at our "Expense".

These aren't the old Nikos D-Paks, they are the new power-pak mosfets. The cream of the crop of Nikos production. But Nikos is always Nikos... biggrin.gif

Maybe a more suitable name, would be "MSI 970 Flaming".
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I think I had mentioned this before. In another thread.

Nothing wrong with nikos. You can buy excat same model of mosfet but made by fairchird or on semi etc etc.

If the nikos XXX model mosfet goes wrong in the board.
Having the same model made by fairchild or on semi will mean that you will have the same plorbem existing.
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Right. Where do you get this "information" from? MSI 970 Gaming uses PK616BA high-side and PK632BA low-side fets. Please post a link to the same fets sold under Renesas, IRF or OnSemi brands?

The thing is that the other components used on these commonly failing MSI boards are used on other brands too (uPI controllers and gate drivers). The only difference that the non-MSI boards use fets which are not supplied by Niko-Semi. For some odd reason these boards will not constantly fail either. I wonder why is that wink.gif
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