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The problem started a couple of days before I installed the new RAM, so that shouldnt be a problem.

Upgraded RAM, did you add modules or replace them?
If you added RAM to existing ram, have you tried removing the original modules?

The point of troubleshooting is to eliminate vectors of failure. If you assume something is OK and don't check it, there is no point in diagnosing the issue.

Check each module individually, one at a time. if they test OK, try installing a single module in the next slot and re-testing. This will verify operation of each module and each of the slots on the motherboard. If one channel repeatedly fails, you may need to re-seat the CPU in the socket. If that fails you could have a bad CPU or Motherboard. If all modules but one/two work, that is obviously your problem.
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I added the new RAM and already tested individual sticks.
After I finally managed to update the BIOS (had to use the stupid live updater because the download from their site was missing a file)
After that I managed to boot with up to manually set 1600Mhz and 1866Mhz using XMP.
And it wont let me change the timings. Tried to change it to default values (which are also used when using XMP) and I had to do a CMOS reset.
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I added the new RAM and already tested individual sticks.
After I finally managed to update the BIOS (had to use the stupid live updater because the download from their site was missing a file)
After that I managed to boot with up to manually set 1600Mhz and 1866Mhz using XMP.
And it wont let me change the timings. Tried to change it to default values (which are also used when using XMP) and I had to do a CMOS reset.

I dont have my 970 Gaming anymore to post a screenshot walkthrough of manually setting the timings, but it can be done. I think there is a master auto/manual setting that enables the subtiming settings.
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I set it to the default timings, which were used in XMP and were working perfectly fine.
Had to do a CMOS reset to get it working again. I dont think I messed up during that.
Timings are 9-10-9-28
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I set it to the default timings, which were used in XMP and were working perfectly fine.
Had to do a CMOS reset to get it working again. I dont think I messed up during that.
Timings are 9-10-9-28

There are many, many more timings than 9-10-9-28. I think in all you can get to 10-15 timing values on the 970 Gaming.

tRFC is pretty important. Having it off by one step can cause boot or POST failure.
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I left the rest on auto. Guess I will have to try changing those.
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I reckon eveyr single timing is important, having any timing wrong would cause the system to be unstable or limit your max ram oc allot. I had wen't from 2000mhz oc to 2133+ with proper timings, before couldn't do it cause I didnt know the timings
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Get the memory timings for 1600 using AIDA64 or similar, then input them manually in UEFI.

If you increase the 200mhz base clock, you are also overclocking the RAM. Overclocking from 200 to 250 bumps memory from 1600 to 2000 and so-forth. 2000 would be a far stretch for most early 1600mhz RAM.
Ok, done with prime blend test 12 h (well, was 11h 53 mins caused by a bad weather, i preferred to shut down the pc rolleyes.gif)
Ayway, for 1600, cl8 had to set command rate 2t.
How much is the performance lost in gaming?
Aida said that the xmp profile should work with 1.5v at the vdimm and 1.3v on the memory controller doh.gif .
If the performance loss, should be rasonable, i will not put much stress on imc, 1st of all caused for temperatures.

Thanks
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Ok, done with prime blend test 12 h (well, was 11h 53 mins caused by a bad weather, i preferred to shut down the pc rolleyes.gif)
Ayway, for 1600, cl8 had to set command rate 2t.
How much is the performance lost in gaming?
Aida said that the xmp profile should work with 1.5v at the vdimm and 1.3v on the memory controller doh.gif .
If the performance loss, should be rasonable, i will not put much stress on imc, 1st of all caused for temperatures.

Thanks

1t command rate is fairly difficult for 4 DIMMs. Performance loss at 2t is not substantial IMHO. Memory speed over 1866 does not really gain much either unless you are running a massive OC, above 4.6ghz or so.
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1t command rate is fairly difficult for 4 DIMMs. Performance loss at 2t is not substantial IMHO. Memory speed over 1866 does not really gain much either unless you are running a massive OC, above 4.6ghz or so.
Well, at the moment i'm using 2 dimms unfortunatly. Anyway, i'm at the stock speed for the fx 8320e, cooler is one limit, the other big one is the aiflow on vrm, seems limiting the voltage fain very much.
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