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hello everyone

i'm planning on building a gaming rig by the end of the current month, since i'm from europe i'll post the parts' prices just to give you all an idea of what i'm planning on spending

here's what i already have:
- crucial mx100 256gb - 96.40€
- dell p2414h - 188.90€


here's the rest of the planned build, i'm open to suggestions
- wd black 1tb 7200rpm - 71,80€
- gskill ripjaws x ddr3 1600mhx cl9 (2*4gb) - 74.30€
- xfx pro 650W core edition - 77.90€
- i5 4590 - 180.60€
- asus h97 plus - 95.10€
- asus gtx770 dc2oc 2 gd5 - 306.29€
- corsair h80i - 84.10€
- cm690 3 - 89,65€

the plan is as follows:
- mount the h80i on the back with pull only - (easier to clean from what i've heard and decent temps as well as not too much noise)
- remove all hard drive cages and mount the ssd and the mechanical 3.5 drive on the 5.25 bays - (how secure does a mechanical hard drive need to be? and does a 7200rpm hard drive need any cooling?)
- get rid of the 200mm fan and mount 2 120mm corsair sp Performance non PWM
- mount another 2 120mm corsair sp Performance non PWM on the top of the case (1 comes from the h80i and one i'll buy)

am i doing something wrong? i would appreciate some feedback
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post #2 of 55
Looks pretty good. I would see if you can get a bit faster RAM. 1866 or 2133 if you can get a good price on them. No need to spend a lot more.
 
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post #3 of 55
everything looks solid and well thought out.

the psu is a good model as well.

however, you dont need the aftermarket cooler. your not going to oc.
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post #4 of 55
Indeed you don't need an aftermarket cooler. Even if you did, that h80i is overpriced and you can get something that's better performing, quieter and also not very difficult to clean for significantly cheaper.

No need for 650w PSU, you're probably using under 300w at combined CPU+GPU load, so unless you plan on getting another 770 within about 6 months to a year and need the 4x pci-e power connectors, get a good quality ~400-450 (not many good units below that wattage)
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Looks pretty good. I would see if you can get a bit faster RAM. 1866 or 2133 if you can get a good price on them. No need to spend a lot more.

You can't run >1600 without overclocking the memory controller which you need z97 for, afaik
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(how secure does a mechanical hard drive need to be? and does a 7200rpm hard drive need any cooling?)

Decently secure, i don't know exactly. They don't need "real cooling" but they need air flowing somewhere close to them - if they were trapped in a little box, they would generate heat which wouldn't leave and eventually overheat (slowly)


Why do you want 4x sp120 performance? They're static pressure fans, not airflow fans. They're good in some places (maybe intaking through a drive cage) but they're both unnecessary, and the loudest part of your build.
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post #5 of 55
-Drop the H80i cause its overkill. Get the H60 instead.
-Get the XFX 550W instead of the 650W or Seasonic SII-520W.

Right now i have a 5400 RPM 2.5 HDD attached with tape to the interior of a 5.25 bay and i don't have any problems,lolz.

I don't know why you would use the 5,25 bays instead of the 3,5 ones (i did it cause i had no more free 3,5 bays). However i think you may want to get the HDD properly seated cause its going to get noisy if you don't isolate it properly.
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You just go in and manually set everything up in BIOS. Memory should run just fine at factory specs of you manually set them. Really anything up to 2400 is pretty much going to work. After that it gets a bit hit or miss. H97 should allow for setting timings and RAM speed as far as I know. If I am wrong, then some one jump in and verify that. But I am pretty sure all you lose on the H97 in this area is the ability to OC unlocked CPUs.
 
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Originally Posted by Phaster89 View Post

hello everyone

i'm planning on building a gaming rig by the end of the current month, since i'm from europe i'll post the parts' prices just to give you all an idea of what i'm planning on spending

here's what i already have:
- crucial mx100 256gb - 96.40€
- dell p2414h - 188.90€


here's the rest of the planned build, i'm open to suggestions
- wd black 1tb 7200rpm - 71,80€
- gskill ripjaws x ddr3 1600mhx cl9 (2*4gb) - 74.30€
- xfx pro 650W core edition - 77.90€
- i5 4590 - 180.60€
- asus h97 plus - 95.10€
- asus gtx770 dc2oc 2 gd5 - 306.29€
- corsair h80i - 84.10€
- cm690 3 - 89,65€

the plan is as follows:
- mount the h80i on the back with pull only - (easier to clean from what i've heard and decent temps as well as not too much noise)
- remove all hard drive cages and mount the ssd and the mechanical 3.5 drive on the 5.25 bays - (how secure does a mechanical hard drive need to be? and does a 7200rpm hard drive need any cooling?)
- get rid of the 200mm fan and mount 2 120mm corsair sp Performance non PWM
- mount another 2 120mm corsair sp Performance non PWM on the top of the case (1 comes from the h80i and one i'll buy)

am i doing something wrong? i would appreciate some feedback

I recently bought a H105 cooler,, it comes with 2 corsair sp 120 mm fans,,well the fans are noisy,,whiney,,im not happy with them at all,,just my 2 cents
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Indeed you don't need an aftermarket cooler. Even if you did, that h80i is overpriced and you can get something that's better performing, quieter and also not very difficult to clean for significantly cheaper.

should i stick with a hyper 212 evo then?
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INo need for 650w PSU, you're probably using under 300w at combined CPU+GPU load, so unless you plan on getting another 770 within about 6 months to a year and need the 4x pci-e power connectors, get a good quality ~400-450 (not many good units below that wattage)

i won't get another gpu, i prefer a single gpu config, knowing that, which psu do you suggest?
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Decently secure, i don't know exactly. They don't need "real cooling" but they need air flowing somewhere close to them - if they were trapped in a little box, they would generate heat which wouldn't leave and eventually overheat (slowly)

so i should at least keep the bottom hdd cage, get a fan blowing air into the ssd and hdd, and a second fan on top of that one blowing air into the gpu?
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Why do you want 4x sp120 performance? They're static pressure fans, not airflow fans. They're good in some places (maybe intaking through a drive cage) but they're both unnecessary, and the loudest part of your build.

from what i've read, AF series don't perform all that well with filters/meshes

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-Drop the H80i cause its overkill. Get the H60 instead.
-Get the XFX 550W instead of the 650W or Seasonic SII-520W.

i would like to keep things as tidy as i can so should i get a mii-520w? the price delta between the s2 and the m2 is about 6€, or should i just for the x series 560w?

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Right now i have a 5400 RPM 2.5 HDD attached with tape to the interior of a 5.25 bay and i don't have any problems,lolz.

I don't know why you would use the 5,25 bays instead of the 3,5 ones (i did it cause i had no more free 3,5 bays). However i think you may want to get the HDD properly seated cause its going to get noisy if you don't isolate it properly.

then i think i'm gonna buy an adapter for the hdd, unless someone thinks that having a hdd on the top of the case with no intake fans around is somewhat not advisable, if this is true i might switch my case to a graphite 230t

i just want to get the inside of the case as clean and "empty" as possible and since all the hdd cages are removable...
Edited by Phaster89 - 7/12/14 at 7:37am
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post #9 of 55
Really, outside server environments, most people don't heat up the HDD that much. It should be fine just sitting in the open. Unless you are going to constantly writing/reading from it. For games it really won't run all that hard.
 
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post #10 of 55
If the difference is that little,get the MII-520W. However you can get the XFX 550W too if its cheaper,it stills being a rebranded Seasonic SII-520W.

Look at my build,i have a SII-520W and i archived a good cable management,in my honest opinion i find modular PSU's only needed when you have a case with bad cable management options.

I would take a look at the Corsair Carbide 400R or NZXT H230 instead of the Graphite 230T. The 400R looks much better imho.

And yes,a Hyper 212/Hyper 412S will be fine for a non-K CPU.
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