Originally Posted by TwoCables
lol you're acting like she's going to be doing some hefty stuff with this computer. So, ok, let's ask. Shall we? Ok.
"hefty stuff" has nothing to do with it. A quality made quiet running computer is a good thing regardless of what it is used for.
Also, will she ever be doing enough multitasking to need more than 4 GB of memory?
4GB of RAM is not 4GB of available system memory in an APU build. VRAM is subtracted from system memory. By default BIOS will allocate 512-1024MB to the iGPU. Windows boots, that's another 1+GB gone.
Your suggesting a system configuration where ~HALF of the system memory will be used before the machine is even doing anything besides being booted up. Seems like sort of a waste to me to have so little memory space to work in.
Before we get the answer, mdocod, I want to tell you something: even though I have 8 GB of memory, I never see any more than 2 GB being used while doing office-like stuff with my computer. So, you can argue "8 GB" all you want, but I am willing to bed that 8 GB would be absolutely unnecessary overkill.
10 tabs open in chromium, each with pretty "common" type stuff in them (some forum pages, a google search, newegg home, google maps, local weather, a few wiki pages, etc) = ~2000MB memory usage. (just for chromium!!! Not including the kernel, kernel modules, drivers, or any of the system services running!)
What's the point of having a desktop with the screen real-estate to be able to do real office-multitasking effectively (which OFTEN involves web research involving many tabs), if the machine doesn't have enough memory to do it smoothly?
How about the PSU? How about we ask some of our experts: @twerk
: do you think that the CX500 for $29.99 is a bad choice for this build, which is just a simple office computer?
$50. $50. $50. Stop misrepresenting the price. MIRs aren't money, they are a waste of time.
Maybe we should make a thread so that people can post their experiences with the CX500 powering simple computers like this. I can tell you right now that I've already seen such posts, and I know for a fact based on everything I've seen on here that the CX500 is MUCH more than good enough for a computer like this.
Yes, the CX500 will power this machine, nobody is debating that. The issue is that there are nicer quality PSUs to choose from for $10-20 more.
Noisy operation? Again, this is going to be a simple office computer. The CPU will probably never have that much of a load on it, and so therefore the stock fan won't ever need to spin up to audible or irritating levels.
There is no throttle in place by default to prevent the CPU from racing to finish tasks at high turbo speeds, and it will. Every time a web page is rendered (which is in fact, a compute intensive task), the CPU will hit high turbo speeds, call for more cooling, and fire up the small high RPM fan on the stock cooler. I"m not making this up. I actually own one of these APUs and have actually used it on the OEM cooler. It's noisy and annoying.
I know that I didn't answer this in the same order that you posted your points, but I didn't go into this with the intention of covering all 3 of them. Disagree all you want, but you are completely ignoring the fact that this is going to be a simple office PC. You're acting like she's going to be doing some heavy gaming and even some overclocking. I mean, for cryin' out loud, man: relax!
I am embracing the fact that it wouldn't matter if the machine were going to be built for office work or media work or gaming or development or enterprise or whatever, I would not aim for the bare minimum for any of them. I can't find any rationale in shooting for the bare minimum in PC building, as that never saves time or money in the long run.