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post #251 of 522
7/17/14 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by Aparition View Post

That seems kinda harsh no? EVGA did hire Unwinder to code Precision but the planning and development probably all did take place under EVGA's roof. Development can be a high level project document, doesn't necessarily mean hand written code.

To me this is just a dispute of contract which happens all the time and is basically normal business. There is a lot of sensationalism in this thread. You have to also take into account that Precision has been very stagnant for a long time, it was only a matter of time before EVGA moved full development to 'in house'.

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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

Nothing is "clear." Everyone needs to quit spewing this crap. Unless you have sincerely looked at the source code of both, you don't know squat.
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Originally Posted by LancerVI View Post

Well I don't have your expertise, so maybe I spoke out of turn. I will defer to your knowledge of the subject.


A little late to the party no? So you're kind of piling on now.

I already admitted as much, so leave it at that. There is no need to say more, as I've already said I 'spoke out of turn.' So please, stop running your jib about the 'squat' I don't know about.
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7/17/14 at 2:22pm
It's all good, I have updated my post to make my findings a little bit clearer.

I want to re-emphasize all it does is point out the things I can find in the garbage dump of both programs, specifically BUILD 5.0.0.0.17

I have nothing against Unwinder, but I am leaning towards EVGA having written a significant portion of the code, if not all of it.
Edited by RagingCain - 7/17/14 at 2:25pm
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7/17/14 at 2:27pm
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lol I liked the First Contact analogy biggrin.gif

As you said, you would need the source code to be sure that any plagiarism has occured and it has been verified multiple times that neither EVGA nor MSI have it. But it doesn't matter though, Guru3D has gotten a ton of views from this.
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7/17/14 at 2:32pm
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Gotta love this. If this was EA or MS being accused of stealing code people would be all over them hating on them. But because its about the almighty EVGA, the hate seems almost non-existent rolleyes.gif

But......almost everything EA and MS do is bad.

This is only the 2nd thing I've known that EVGA has done poorly, and their just isnt enough info yet on this situation to blame it on EVGA yet.

For me, EVGA has EARNED the benefit of the doubt at this point.
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7/17/14 at 2:39pm
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LOL

http://steamcommunity.com/app/268850/discussions/0/41973820581398948/

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The only 2GHz overclock that I'm aware of required the user to solder a total of 16GB of additional VRAM onto the PCB of his card to account for memory clock limitations


LOL wat?



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7/17/14 at 2:43pm
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LOL! You people are a joke now...come on.

Because they MAY have stolen some code or whatever people here are going all "forget you EVGA! Now I'm going to go drive my car that uses gas made by corporations that have severely polluted the environment and has killed untold number of animals!"

It's so hypocritical.

More bleeding-heart political tripe like posted in other threads. And LOL @ "has killed animals", you do realize in nature animals eat and kill animals, right? Are you going to go whine about lions eating giraffes? I mean, that never happens in nature! NEVER! Right......? Bueller????
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7/17/14 at 2:45pm
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But......almost everything EA and MS do is bad.

This is only the 2nd thing I've known that EVGA has done poorly, and their just isnt enough info yet on this situation to blame it on EVGA yet.

For me, EVGA has EARNED the benefit of the doubt at this point.

Lord Valve and Archbishop Gabe can do no wrong, either... EA of course is hellfire and damnation immediately on forums. :lol:
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7/17/14 at 2:57pm
OT: This guy in the steam forums is spouting some of the most absurd stuff I've ever read!
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Temperature at that speed is barely even an important factor anymore, stability is. Something will go wrong far before it heats to a ridiculous level. These cards are pretty carefully timed. A clock rate of 2GHz isn't going to be possible without also significantly upping the memory bus, and the 700-series cards are pushing it already in terms of what the GDDR5 specification can do. And honestly, it's a pretty silly concept anyway, you're not actually getting better performance if you've maxed out a bus, the cached backlog will cripple your GPU, HDD transfer, and even system RAM.

The only 2GHz overclock that I'm aware of required the user to solder a total of 16GB of additional VRAM onto the PCB of his card to account for memory clock limitations, in addition to using an LN2 system. Very, very few people are going to care enough to do this. I certainly don't, and I tweak my system an embarrassing amount.

I should help everyone who happens upon this, honestly, since this thread is getting some posts.

The average user never has to overclock. Getting a real benefit from it requires a solid background in the relationship between your GPU's core clock and memory bandwidth, as well as caching behavior between the two.

But let's say you're really stoked on overclocking because you want that couple frames extra per second. Please, everyone new to overclocking who finds this post, promise me you'll do two things.

1) Practice on cards that didn't cost you $300 or more first. An old gpu is fine. Overclocking effectively is a skill that takes practice and research.

2) NEVER EVER EVER EVER modify your card's firmware. If you're going to overclock, use software. Modifying the firmware, I can almost guarantee, will void your warranty

On topic: Thanks to RagingCain for the rough breakdown. Sounds like Unwinder is crying wolf
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7/17/14 at 3:03pm
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This is annoying me also. I'm in game but Steam says I'm currently in Precision X, which means nobody will invite me to their party :'( Only annoyance so far, the rest of the program seems greatly improved.

In the mean time I'm going back to the old version. It's stupid that this new version has anything to do with steam when you download it from EVGA's site. If I wanted people to know that I'm using Precision in steam I would of downloaded it through steam.
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7/17/14 at 3:18pm
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OT: This guy in the steam forums is spouting some of the most absurd stuff I've ever read!
On topic: Thanks to RagingCain for the rough breakdown. Sounds like Unwinder is crying wolf

Oh, don't think I didn't see what you did thar. tongue.gif
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