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[Vortez]Noctua IndustrialPPC Fans review

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At the time Noctua announced its redux fans and accessory kits, they also introduced a series of industrial "Protected Performance Cooling" fans. These are "ruggedised high-speed versions" of two of their most promising fans - the 120mm NF-F12 and the 140mm NF-A14. More than merely ruggedized and sped-up, these fans have undergone a change to charcoal black impellers and frames. And in keeping with the industrial nature of these fans, they have gone from four-magnet motors to six magnets apiece. As a result, these fans draw very little current for all their push, so they should suit industrial applications, where current draw figures into the total cost of ownership. If these improvements just so happen to make these fans perfect for mounting on radiators, so much the better.
Review By @Ehume
 
#2 ·
Awesome! I wonder how much the NF-A14 3000RPM PWM is going to run. 269.3 m^3/h is moving some SERIOUS air.

Edit: Found em' at NCIXUS for 32 a pop. wonder if I can get a discount for a dozen
 
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Originally Posted by mbreslin View Post

Would the brown corners be removable to be dyed?

Thanks.
Yes, they are removable.

The NF-F12 2000rpm versions are going for £20.52, no thanks... having used Noctuas for years and recently bought some Deltas I have seen the light. No consumer option can compare.
 
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Originally Posted by twerk View Post

Yes, they are removable.

The NF-F12 2000rpm versions are going for £20.52, no thanks... having used Noctuas for years and recently bought some Deltas I have seen the light. No consumer option can compare.
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Originally Posted by skruppe View Post

Yes they can be removed.
Thanks guys. I really want the 3000rpm PWM's, like 600$ in fans though, what to do, what to do.
 
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Originally Posted by mbreslin View Post

Thanks guys. I really want the 3000rpm PWM's, like 600$ in fans though, what to do, what to do.
I would probably upgrade your cpu/mobo before doing something silly like that. I spent ~140 for San Ace fans for my rad a few years ago and I thought that was ridiculous. The return on investment just isn't there. Some serious diminishing returns.
 
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Originally Posted by The Source View Post

I would probably upgrade your cpu/mobo before doing something silly like that. I spent ~140 for San Ace fans for my rad a few years ago and I thought that was ridiculous. The return on investment just isn't there. Some serious diminishing returns.
lol.

Isn't this OCN where people are generally knowledgable? Do you really think I'd spend 600$ on fans and leave the rest of my rig alone?
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I'll be needing to cool one of these:

 
#13 ·
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Originally Posted by mbreslin View Post

lol.

Isn't this OCN where people are generally knowledgable? Do you really think I'd spend 600$ on fans and leave the rest of my rig alone?
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I'll be needing to cool one of these:

That's debatable.
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Point still stands. No matter how many fans you add you aint' getting negative delta. 600 buys a small phase change unit fer petes sake.
 
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Originally Posted by Bartouille View Post

Why would I get this fan when I can get something like this... http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835706036

As much as I like Noctua the pricing on these fans is ridiculous, just like all their other fans. Rather have a San Ace, Delta, etc. Plus you can often get them cheap from servers and they will still last you 3+ years...
Comparing that Delta to the equivalent Noctua 3000rpm 120mm fan:
Delta 113.1cfm 46.5 dBA @3400rpm vs Noctua 109cfm 43.5dBA @3000rpm, pretty even here, Noctua maybe edging air pushed/noise.
Noctua PPC line comes with 6 year warranty, Delta 1 year.
Noctua is IP52, Delta is not.
Noctua draws 0.3A, Delta 0.53A.
Noctua PPC line has a very high MTBF of over >150,000 hours
That Delta fan is ugly.
In the UK that Delta fan costs £12.95, the Noctua £19.14.

So yes, you can buy a cheaper fan but you can't compare its specification with the Noctua's.
 
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I would be open to
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Originally Posted by M00NIE View Post

I've asked this in the Noctua thread in the past, one forum member tried multiple ways but failed. I don't think you can dye them.

*found the post*
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Originally Posted by Wihglah View Post

Rit dye has no effect either.
There goes my plan. Thanks for the tip, may have saved me 600$. +rep

I would be willing to try some sanyo denki but I've been daunted by all the options, anyone recommend a good PWM model?

Thanks.
 
#18 ·
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Originally Posted by Daffron View Post

Comparing that Delta to the equivalent Noctua 3000rpm 120mm fan:
Delta 113.1cfm 46.5 dBA @3400rpm vs Noctua 109cfm 43.5dBA @3000rpm, pretty even here, Noctua maybe edging air pushed/noise.
Noctua PPC line comes with 6 year warranty, Delta 1 year.
Noctua is IP52, Delta is not.
Noctua draws 0.3A, Delta 0.53A.
Noctua PPC line has a very high MTBF of over >150,000 hours
That Delta fan is ugly.
In the UK that Delta fan costs £12.95, the Noctua £19.14.

So yes, you can buy a cheaper fan but you can't compare its specification with the Noctua's.
You can't compare Delta's specifications to Noctuas? Is that a joke? These are the only fans Noctua's got that can be compared at all, Delta is in a different league from their other lines of fans. Also Delta's specifications are extremely conservative. Noctua is charging $30-40 for performance that Delta has been offering for years for less than $10-15.
 
#19 ·
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Originally Posted by AMW1011 View Post

You can't compare Delta's specifications to Noctuas? Is that a joke? These are the only fans Noctua's got that can be compared at all, Delta is in a different league from their other lines of fans. Also Delta's specifications are extremely conservative. Noctua is charging $30-40 for performance that Delta has been offering for years for less than $10-15.
This.

Deltas specs are less then what can actually be measured, which is the opposite of what you find with consumer fans. Until you have used a Delta fan (or other enterprise geared product like San Ace or Sanyo), you can't understand how enormous the difference is.

I've owned Noctua NF-F12s, NF-A14s, NF-A9x14s, NF-A15s, a single NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 and a single industrialPPC-2000. They don't compare to the Delta AFB1212Ms I just picked up, period.
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Twerk, what do you use those 30W monsters on? Do you control them at all?
The AFB1212Ms only go up to 2200rpm (just over 3W each). I value my hearing too much to go with a FFB1212VHE or similar.
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Anyway, back on topic. Sorry for the Noctua bashing.
 
#24 ·
These did better than I expected but as mentioned there is better. Note that some Deltas, Sunons, and Nidecs don't really undervolt that well, and with so many models between those brands it's hard to know what DOES do well on a controller.
 
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