I'm starting to think I have a week chip. Incredibly frustrated! I'm doing everything I've learned over the years to get this 1100T stable at 3.8g and I just can't seem to manage it. Here's where I'm at. I'm stable @ 3.7, 1.39v with a 240 fsb. Ram (4x4g) is at 1600 - 1.5v. 9.9.9.31.41.2T. cpu-nb is @ 2200 1.2v and HTT is around 2100 maybe a touch lower. ( don't remember atm). I know my max on the fsb is 250, I know my max cpu-nb is 2900. Last night I tried 3.8g with everything else @ stock or lower clocks, just upped the multi. @3.8g with LLC off I pumped 1.45v through it. BSOD almost instantly while running prime. I decided to enable LLC and try that. My Mobo only has LLC options to run it auto, enabled, or disabled. I can not choose a level of LLC, which is why I never played with it. I was guessing it would run pretty high voltages. And it did, @3.8, 200 fsb, ram @ 1333, I watched the voltage through HWM go up to 1.47v until it BSOD again... 1.47v for 3.8g seems pretty darn high. And then to have it BSOD on me while running p95 just floored me. I don't know what else to try. Any suggestions??? Ohh and so far heat has not been an issue. Sorry If I'm being scattered, I'm @ work.
Specs:
AMD 1100T
Corsair H60 (push/pull)
Asus m5a97 r1.02
Corsair Vengeance (4x4g)
His Iceq X Turbo2 r9 280X
Coolermaster 1000w psu
Coolermaster Haf-X case
I would up the NB speed to ~2700 and give the CPU_NB some extra volts 1.25v maybe a bit higher. The PII/Thubans atually like/need a bit higher NB when you get into the higher clocks. I would also take out 2 sticks of ram for now
I'll try upping the NB and see what happens. Funny thing with my board and the NB. On auto my Mobo set the CPU-NB voltage to 1.5v! I was chasing a heat problem for a while and finally found that to be the cause. And as far as removing 2 sticks of ram, I know it could very well help my OC, it just seems counter productive to drop my ram to 8G. Never the less I'll give it a shot tonight.
I know it has a locked multi, but my 1055t would not go above 3.96 up from a stock 2.8. I was happy with that. My first real venture in pushing a chip as far as it wanted to go. Even under water an with increased voltage to 1.5. But it ran stable under 5 hrs of Prime 95 and OCCT. I bumped it back to 3.86 and left it there for almost 4 yrs. It finally said enough and was acting up this year and I retired her to the bin.
Some chips are weaker than others. Its hit or miss.
When I had the 1090T the best i got was 3.8Ghz. I can do 3.9Ghz, but at 50/50 stable run.
FSB increase and slight voltage bump.
My friend Chris had the same CPU, Mobo and ram but got his 1090T to 4.0 Ghz easy. 4.2Ghz was even stable for him.
The mobo used was the Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Personally, I sold my 1090T (@3.6) and got a used 8320 for less on ebay... gave me a lot higher min fps in LoL (@4.2) so I'm happy. Seeing you have an AM3+ socket I can only recommend switching to a piledriver.
edit: not saying you should give up on your oc, but the piledrivers are a lot newer and bring advantages to the table. Getting a 6 core piledriver to 4.4-4.5 shouldn't be a problem if you can hit 3.6 on your thuban. Depending on what deals you can find there's no reason not to switch!
I can get up to 3.8 with my 1090T, but I stick to x18 multi so it isn't using 100% power all the time(CnQ and C1E). No matter what voltages though, I cannot hit 4 GHz.
Same here, mine does not want to budge past what I've got it at, now.
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I'll try upping the NB and see what happens. Funny thing with my board and the NB. On auto my Mobo set the CPU-NB voltage to 1.5v! I was chasing a heat problem for a while and finally found that to be the cause. And as far as removing 2 sticks of ram, I know it could very well help my OC, it just seems counter productive to drop my ram to 8G. Never the less I'll give it a shot tonight.
I probably won't be much help, but through 3 different AMD chips on 2 different platforms, AMD has been notoriously picky with RAM. This includes timings, voltage, and even having all 4 slots occupied. My first 939 rig would exhibit a 200-400MHz higher OC just from only having 2 sticks vs. 4. One tip I have is to make sure your motherboard reads the correct 'stock' voltage. For some reason, my board thinks my RAMs voltage is about 2 notches lower.
Whether you want gaming or benchmarking should be your deciding factor. Ultimately I'm happy with my current OC for gaming, and just generally everything else I do with my PC. However, if you're trying to set some benchmarking goals for yourself, pop those two other sticks out and have at it. I'm not familiar with the AMD 8xx and 9xx series chipsets, but that could be a limiting factor as well.
Don't be afraid to nudge the voltage a bit. Also, you should put your system specs into your sig.
Sorry, sig fixed. Yea I'm gonna play a bit more with it tonight. Gonna pull 2 stick of ram out just for SnG. But I must say I was just reading up on the FX-6300. I'm a gamer, have been since the Atari and Coleco hit the shelves (just dated myself). So at the end of the day that's what this system needs to be good at.
Yes, my board has VRM heat sinks. Have thought about removing them and applying new paste, but at this point I don't think that would help much.
Yea, I know the H60 is weak. I actually have a xspc raystorm 750 ex360 sitting at home right now waiting to be installed. Also JUST got my paracord and heat shrink delivered today. So this weekend is gonna be busy! Sadly at this point I don't know if I'm gonna install the new cooling system with this CPU or not.
I would install the new cooling system with no hesitation if I thought I could get to 4GHZ @ 1.5. But at this moment I don't think it will make it there. But, I'll know more about where I sit tonight. "IF" I remove 2 sticks of ram and all of a sudden I can hit 4GHZ. I will install the new cooling system, and buy 2x8gig ram sticks no questions asked.
Just figured I would throw in my 2 cents. My backup rig has been running a 960T on a Gigabyte 990XA for awhile now. I unlocked 2 extra cores and was able to reach a stable 1GHz overclock, sitting at 4.0. I think it fluctuates between 1.4-1.45v. Because of the unlock, coretemp and similar products don't function, but at four cores, it idles around 19C under a 212+. The gigabyte board is a solid overclocker.
None really, I just like the overhead. Running 8 gigs if ram atm, prime is going. Cpu @3.8g with 1.48v. Cpu - nb @ 2600, ht @2000. Core temp is @ 44c after almost 20 mins. Longest it's ever been stable @ 3.8. Maybe there hope. But still a lot of voltage for 3.8g.
Well, 3.8ghz @ 1.48v has been stable now for over an hour. Tried bumping up to 3.9ghz @ 1.5v and lost a worker. Heat is still not an issue, which surprises me honestly. Little later I'll try balancing the fsb and everything else. Thinking I have the little H60 that could lol. To bad i don't have the 1100t that could!
Sorry, sig fixed. Yea I'm gonna play a bit more with it tonight. Gonna pull 2 stick of ram out just for SnG. But I must say I was just reading up on the FX-6300. I'm a gamer, have been since the Atari and Coleco hit the shelves (just dated myself). So at the end of the day that's what this system needs to be good at.
Yes, my board has VRM heat sinks. Have thought about removing them and applying new paste, but at this point I don't think that would help much.
Not sure how impressionable VRM sinks are to re-pasting and re-seating, but I did it to my last GPU which was starting to overheat in BF4 at higher resolutions and it improved GPU temps by 5+ C. If you're going to be disassembling things for the loops, it's worth a shot.
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I would install the new cooling system with no hesitation if I thought I could get to 4GHZ @ 1.5. But at this moment I don't think it will make it there. But, I'll know more about where I sit tonight. "IF" I remove 2 sticks of ram and all of a sudden I can hit 4GHZ. I will install the new cooling system, and buy 2x8gig ram sticks no questions asked.
Well, 3.8ghz @ 1.48v has been stable now for over an hour. Tried bumping up to 3.9ghz @ 1.5v and lost a worker. Heat is still not an issue, which surprises me honestly. Little later I'll try balancing the fsb and everything else. Thinking I have the little H60 that could lol. To bad i don't have the 1100t that could!
If you're able, try and throw a 'loose' fan in that and just get some more airflow to and around the CPU/VRMs. See if that has any effect on overall temps. If even that makes a difference, you can expect your custom loop to do so.
Well, 3.8ghz @ 1.48v has been stable now for over an hour. Tried bumping up to 3.9ghz @ 1.5v and lost a worker. Heat is still not an issue, which surprises me honestly. Little later I'll try balancing the fsb and everything else. Thinking I have the little H60 that could lol. To bad i don't have the 1100t that could!
At least you're making some progress. Does seem that the voltage is getting a tad high but you're ok to 1.55v for 24/7 assuming the AIO can handle it. That idea PEZ suggested of the fans is a good one. I never found it necessary on my PII but all my FX need one when using water cooling. The lack of a HS/fan tends to let the air stagnate around the VRM
I do have a 120mm fan blowing across the Mobo for that reason. If I have some free time tonight I'll go higher on the voltage. But seeing I couldn't stabilize 3.9ghz with 1.5v, I'm not feeling very optimistic this morning lol. But your right Johan45, I/we did make progress!
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