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REVIEW OF LOGITECH G402 HYPERION FURY

I will be reviewing the new G402 by Logitech, the official successor of the G400s.



I'd like to give one information straight away: I have been involved in the development process of this mouse by working with Logitech under NDA helping to test Hyperion Fury. That's also why I already have a sample to review. I will go into more detail when discussing the sensor performance and Fusion Engine.
I want to note though that it was made very clear to me that Logitech does not want to have any editorial rights to any of my reviews because they want me to be as objective as possible.




Boxing

The box is very similar to the G502 box, but you can't open the front panel. It's a rather small box.

What's included:
- Logitech G402
- Warranty
- Manual

Box:









Weight & Shape

While the mouse doesn't look like a G400 at first glance it actually feels quite similar in my hand. The right side lip is also still there, albeit a bit different this time. Some people stated it looks like a R.A.T. mouse, but I can assure you it doesn't feel like one. It's a closed body, I can't even feel the shiny lines part on the upper shell when using the mouse.

Weight: 103 g (without cable)
Height: 41 mm
Width: 72 mm
Estimated width at grip position: 63 mm
Length: 136 mm
Number of buttons: 8













A comparison with other mice, left to right: Logitech G100s, G502, G402, G400, FK1


Now some pictures how I hold the mouse (I'd describe it as a hybrid of claw-palm)





And a look at the position of the sniper button. Hard to see, but for me it is in the perfect spot, it would be easy to actuate if I wanted to. However I never use more than one side button for gaming anyway and have even less need for a sniper button, so I never used it. It didn't bother me at all though, it's not in the way of my grip in any way.



For comparison: My hand is around 19.5 cm from the tip of my middle finger to the base.

To me the shape is nice, but it bears the same problems I had with the G400 (right side lip). There is more space for the pinky now though, so if you use a more relaxed palm grip and/or three fingers on top it would be less of an issue than with the G400.

Of course shape is completely individual preference, so everyone has to try for himself in the end. The perfect shape for me might be horrible for others. So please keep the pictures of my grip in mind for comparison.



Sensor / Performance

Now things get interesting (at least for me) because Logitech once again did something innovative with the new G402. They used a accelerometer/gyrometer to pick up movement when the sensor fails at higher speeds. The sensor used in the G402 is the same used in the G100s (AM010) which always felt very nice to me but unfortunately would lose tracking at about 2.7 m/s. This would be enough for most people, but at my low sens I regularly reach speeds above 3.5 m/s.
Being a sceptical person I would not trust this method if I heard of it before using such a mouse (I had/have no idea how accurate those accelerometers are really) but luckily when I first tested the mouse I didn't feel a difference at all. If I weren't told the accelerometer picks up when the sensor fails I would have never realised it. So in short: it works, and it works really really well.

You can see the point when the Fusion Engine (Logitech's name for the accelerometer technology) takes over in my MouseTester screens if you look closely at just below the 3 m/s marks. The counts divert a bit before that point, after that it's one straight line. Logitech will probably release more information about Fusion Engine in the future, so stay tuned for that.

Now normally I would list malfunction speeds etc, but fact is: it does not malfunction at all. There is a neat little feature in the new LGS where you can try to reach max speeds with the Fusion Engine, I maxed out at 6.5 m/s. For more speeds I would need a bigger mousepad I guess, but it's not like anyone every would need that. I know that someone with a deskpad reached above 9 m/s though.

The sensor is adjustable in steps of 80 CPI from 240 to 4000 CPI, I did only test 400, 800, 1600 and 4000 CPI though. (Standard out of the box is: 400, 800, 1600, 3200)




MouseTester screencaps at 1000 and 500 Hz (Click to show)
ALL TESTS ARE PERFORMED ON THE QPAD UC 50!

The real dpi for each setting can be seen in the mouse tester print. As always I also measured the real CPI values and to no surprise Logitech delivered an accurate result as usual with them.

400 cpi, 1000 Hz


800 cpi, 1000 Hz


1600 cpi, 1000 Hz


4000 cpi, 1000 Hz


400 cpi, 500 Hz


800 cpi, 500 Hz


1600 cpi, 500 Hz


4000 cpi, 500 Hz


CPI steps
Jitter tests (Click to show)







As you can see there is little to no jitter at 400, 800 and 1600 CPI. 4000 CPI has a lot of it though.

Acceleration Test
Old test! (Click to show)

There is accel, but at least it is consistent. Not a big deal imo.

EDIT: as this seems to confuse a lot of people, here is another accel test where I still go fast to the right but not as slow back. So the minor inaccuracy seems to have been while moving very slow

This looks perfectly fine to me. Here is the MouseTester screen for the first fast swipe to the right too.
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Lift Off Distance

Between 1 and 2 CD on black cloth, being closer to 1 CD. It's generally very low.



Buttons / Switches / Scroll Wheel

The G402 shares the button design with the G502, so they also feel very nice. The buttons being seperated from the shell really makes for a very nice click feel. The switches are Omrons for LMB and RMB, all other buttons are TTC switches, at least on my version. This might be an earlier model, so this is not 100% confirmed.



The scroll wheel is really great to me, nothing like the big clunky thing on the G502. It is light and crisp.



Build Quality

What you expect from Logitech, very high quality, nothing flimsy. The cable is non-braided (huge plus for me) and a bit too stiff for my taste. If you take a look at the inside of the mouse you can see that everyhing is very well put together, no cheap connections there. Kudos to Logitech for producing quality there.



Conclusion

I like the G402, and for everyone who liked the G400 shape it is definitely a very good option. I'm also impressed at how good the Fusion Engine works. Come to think about it this technology could make older tech more usefull again, like the MLT04 with its only negative being a much too low PCS. I don't know why Logitech went this way and did not chose the 3366 in this mouse too, but even if it is an experiment: it worked. To me there is no downside to the G402's performance with that of the G502. Maybe "cursor-feeling-enthusiasts" have different opinions there, we'll see once more people got their hands on the G402.
Edited by Ino. - 7/31/14 at 7:41am
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Great review. Don't know what logitech is thinking though. This is a cheaper g502 with a slightly different shape and a worse sensor. Don't think this will be moving many units.
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Well it is cheaper and significantly lighter than the G502, so better suited for FPS players. The worse sensor part is only relative to the 3366 though, because other than the relatively low PCS the AM010 is fine.

I don't know more about the decision making at Logitech though, so I can't comment how or why they decided to go that way.
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There's something cut off at the very end of your post (in the "Conclusion" section).
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There is a reason why Skylit hasn't been on here. Apparently, Ino doesn't get treated the same / follows the rules. Also the same reason why I haven't been on here for a long time.
Edited by popups - 7/30/14 at 10:20am
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There's something cut off at the very end of your post (in the "Conclusion" section).

Fixed, thanks. Don't know what caused that.
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There is a reason why Skylit hasn't been on here. Apparently, Ino doesn't get treated the same / follows the rules. Also the same reason why I haven't been on here for a long time.

Answered in PM.
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you do that picture cropping with a g402? tongue.gif i'm kidding!
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While I personally have no interest in this mouse (mainly because I can't see how it is an upgrade to a G400), I must say the technology is interesting. At high speeds, nobody is honestly looking for accurate tracking in terms of reading the hand movements. Simply because those hand movements themselves are not intended/possible to control physically at fast motion to start with. So the idea of using a component that creates digitally perfected representations of those movements (if that's how the accelerometer works) is intriguing. And it apparently stays mostly accurate as far as motion speed is concerned (slight acceleration). Would be interesting to know to what extend older sensors are compatible with the technology, if at all. First we have to wait for more detailed explanation of how it exactly works of course.

That said, I'm not a fan of premature reviews. Could be all sorts of issues with it. This is marketing more than it helps people make an educated purchase.
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Acceleration Test

There is accel, but at least it is consistent. Not a big deal imo.

Hum.. did you talk with Logitech about this? is there really consistent accel on it or is it just your sample?

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Not knowing what happened i just see your post as flame, not contributing to anything..
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Is the right side similar to the G502? Can you have both fingers under it? Could you take a pic of how you hold it on the right side? Thanks.
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