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Thanks so much for your tests
Is what you could test the orientation with the LGA2011-3 (regular or 90°)
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Moonman, I'd be interesting in learning what EK Supremacy (non-EVO) jetplate should be used for S2011 smile.gif
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post #84 of 119
Thread Starter 
Changelog:
2014_12_11 - Added LGA-2011-3 Haswell-E test to the review


Hi all! I have now compiled the results of Haswell-E (5820K) CPU platform using ASUS X99-Deluxe motherboard. My findings:
- Supremacy EVO performs best when using the latest jet J3.
- The majority of blocks performs about the same with few exceptions (old Koolance CPU-370, Watercool HeatKiller 3.0, Bitspower Summit EF and Swiftech Apogee XL)
- The poor result of Swiftech Apogee XL is most likely the result of improper mounting clamp force.

Please see POST #2 for complete test list.
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3.3. Thermal performance on a LGA-2011-3 Haswell-E CPU
-ΔT (note: lower temperature is better)


-RPI (Relative Performance Index)
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Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post

Thanks so much for your tests
Is what you could test the orientation with the LGA2011-3 (regular or 90°)
The optimal orientation remained the same for LGA-2011-3 and older LGA-2011.
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Originally Posted by cloppy007 View Post

Moonman, I'd be interesting in learning what EK Supremacy (non-EVO) jetplate should be used for S2011 smile.gif
I don't have J4 to test the block out thus the test was conducted using J3, which proved the best in my testing.
Edited by Moonmanovich - 12/11/14 at 1:42am
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Thanks so much for the test biggrin.gif

With Supremacy EVO, you tested with the Jet Plate #3 for LGA2011-3?
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Originally Posted by Moonmanovich View Post

The optimal orientation remained the same for LGA-2011-3 and older LGA-2011.

As for the LGA2011 with the LGA2011-3 and Supremacy EVO, the best orientation is Rotated 90°
You saw a big difference with the orientation Regular?
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post #86 of 119
Moonman, I probably wouldn't make a blanket statement like that. The 5960x, also Haswell-E, has a different die structure so we can't assume it will be the same yet. I will get the 5960x tested out soon to see.
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Moonman, I probably wouldn't make a blanket statement like that. The 5960x, also Haswell-E, has a different die structure so we can't assume it will be the same yet. I will get the 5960x tested out soon to see.

Hello geggeg. My understanding is there is only one die for general consumer LGA-2011-3 market. It's just the lower bins have 2 cores and some L3 cache disabled, just like 4820K vs. 4930K. Or 4670K vs. 4770K (6MB L3 vs. 8MB L3).

At the moment I cannot afford a 5960X CPU. Anybody want to donate? wink.gif
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Thanks so much for the test

With Supremacy EVO, you tested with the Jet Plate #3 for LGA2011-3?

As for the LGA2011 with the LGA2011-3 and Supremacy EVO, the best orientation is Rotated 90°
You saw a big difference with the orientation Regular?

Hello tistou!
Yes, J3 gives best performance on Supremacy EVO.

I don't have exact number, I have made conclusions after 3 runs that 90° CCW is better than regular position and did 5 runs of 90° CCW instead.
post #88 of 119
Bro 27C delta on 5820K? You could have pushed that baby harder wink.gif So many of your results ended up being within the margin of error. As always good to see some data on 5820K. Dem hookups lol.

Might be worth pointing out that when you talk about rotation - that 4770K rotation is 90 degrees different to 3930k/4930k/5820K (or if its the same for you - it wasn't for me)

Confused as to why the apogee XL is so much worse than the HD - you say clamping force is wrong - but don't they have they same mount mechanism? Does it run out of thread on the XL or something? Swiftech claimed to beat EK on 3930K in their tests though so they've obviously tested 2011 (and I assume 2011-3 mount is similar enough) but I haven't reproduced yet. I'll be checking them all on 4930K soon, and x99 after that smile.gif

BTW Niko mentioned you are fanatically clean about your blocks. I assume you're using ZMT to avoid plasticizer and tube crap getting stuck in the EVO? Do you clean the block after every run or just before/after the whole run of tests are complete. I'm wondering if that's why mine was testing so poorly because after talking to Niko and looking back at my data - the first run on supremacy (evo) would usually be better than the rest which might indicate the evo blocks getting clogged (and my tube on the test bench is really old now and crappy - pro lrt not even advanced LRT). My evo even when it "looked clean" after ~10 hours on the bench requires cleaning to produce good flow/restriction results so I'm thinking that the narrow channels are much more sensitive to getting blocked. The question here then becomes whether testing a block in such a situation is fair or not.

A system that doesn't have the potential to clog a block will test purely ideal thermal performance better, however it won't represent as well what an end user with tube might see after 3 months. Of course these days hard tube is more and more popular, which makes me lean towards a more ideal setup, but it bothers me that a block can get noticeably clogged and thermal performance affected within a few hours of running.
Edited by stren - 12/11/14 at 8:37am
     
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Pro LRT? Man you be trippin'!
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Pro LRT? Man you be trippin'!

Hey my bench was setup even before advanced was out tongue.gif We keep it old school. Admittedly I could have changed it since, but that's the plan now. Truth is there are people using worse tube even than pro LRT out there - so really what's representative of an end user?
     
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