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If memory serves me right stain give the wood its coloring after the assembly is complete and vaneer is a clear coat. I have not done much wood working for over 5 years so anyone feel free to correct me.

You're not thinking of varnish, not veneer.



Veneer is a paper-thin layer of a 'fancier' wood that is glued to something. Most furniture is done like this nowadays, the centre will be plywood or chipboard etc. Then the veneer can be stained (tinted/dyed/colored) if desired, after which a finish/protective coat is applied - varnish (old school), polyurethane, tung oil; there are many different choices here.



Really like the way this is coming together Mosquito - I'd say the Sapele looks quite nice even now!
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You're not thinking of varnish, not veneer.



Veneer is a paper-thin layer of a 'fancier' wood that is glued to something. Most furniture is done like this nowadays, the centre will be plywood or chipboard etc. Then the veneer can be stained (tinted/dyed/colored) if desired, after which a finish/protective coat is applied - varnish (old school), polyurethane, tung oil; there are many different choices here.



Really like the way this is coming together Mosquito - I'd say the Sapele looks quite nice even now!

Ah I was thinking i was off on vaneer and you confirmed my suspicions thanks.
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Thanks guys!
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love this build was personally hoping you would stain it instead of the veneer even if it isn't the prettiest wood on the planet. it almost feels like you're covering up a lot of hard work. but to each his own and it looks awesome either way!

I get what you mean... I was going for a specific look when I first decided on this project, and had more of a design and aesthetic in mind that I wanted this to fit into. It's going in the living room, so I wanted it to look a little more sleek and classy. All personal opinion though smile.gif
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what is the difference between stain and veneer?
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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober View Post

If memory serves me right stain give the wood its coloring after the assembly is complete and vaneer is a clear coat. I have not done much wood working for over 5 years so anyone feel free to correct me.

Stain changes the color of the wood to a degree (depending on the stain and the wood, certain woods behave differently with different colors of stains). Veneer is a very thin material (wood in this case, melamine, Formica, etc are all technically veneers too) that gets applied over a substrate (my plywood chassis). You might be thinking about Varnish, which is a clear coat.


I'll be using some Red Mahogany danish oil, which won't have too much of an effect on the color of the Sapele veneer (Sapele being in the mahogany family), but it helps to get a richer color with out taking away from the figure. Then I'll use shellac for my clear coat, and buff it out with paste wax.
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You're not thinking of varnish, not veneer.

Veneer is a paper-thin layer of a 'fancier' wood that is glued to something. Most furniture is done like this nowadays, the centre will be plywood or chipboard etc. Then the veneer can be stained (tinted/dyed/colored) if desired, after which a finish/protective coat is applied - varnish (old school), polyurethane, tung oil; there are many different choices here.

Really like the way this is coming together Mosquito - I'd say the Sapele looks quite nice even now!
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Ah I was thinking i was off on vaneer and you confirmed my suspicions thanks.

I got ninja'ed twice ph34r-smiley.gif lol

Thanks Xclysr! I sanded it and wet it with a little mineral spirits... yummy biggrin.gif
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what is the difference between stain and veneer?

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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober View Post

If memory serves me right stain give the wood its coloring after the assembly is complete and vaneer is a clear coat. I have not done much wood working for over 5 years so anyone feel free to correct me.

You are correct on stain, its a liquid applied to color the wood.

Veneer is a very thin slice (think paper thin) of a wood that is glued to the surface of whatever you are making. Generally veneers are used to cover the end grain of a plywood which already has the face veneered. This continues the veneer to all sides and hides the underlying plywood. Or to cover the surface of the work piece with a more beautiful/exotic lumber which would be otherwise cost prohibitive. Highly figured wood like what Mosquito Mods is using for veneer are rather pricey just for the veneer sometimes much less a solid chunk of the stuff.

Dirty Elf, I think you are thinking of lacquer or polyurethane when you are thinking of a clear coat.
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post #96 of 148
i wasnt thinking of anything, i genuinely didnt know! haha

thanks for the multitude of explanations... looks great btw, keep it up!
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I usually like to wait until Mondays to do my updates, so I can get some progress in on the weekend to see where we’re at, but I was too excited to share this part. So maybe I’ll post a video on Monday instead… if I can put one together by then of course.



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So this is what I left you hanging with last time. A strip of aluminum clamped to the side of the case.


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I’ll back up a bit, and show this. I used a make shift fence on my scroll saw, with a spiral cut blade, to cut 2.5” wide strips of .025” thick from a sheet of it. The thickness is about the same as the veneer I used, so it should hopefully sit mostly flush, or just a little proud.


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With the strip clamped in place on the side panel of the case where it will be, so I can bend it.


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I used a scrap piece of wood clamped right on the edge to hold it in place, and to try to get the corner as crisp as I could. I then used another block of scrap to even bend the piece over the corner.


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Not bad. Just bent it a little further once I got it out of the clamps, until it stayed at 90 degrees.


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I marked the corner where I was going to cut it with a speed square, then cut it with some good ol’ tin snips. This is where this piece will reside once complete.


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Once again I run into the issue of not being able to take pictures while I’m working on something like this… This is where I hope the video will fill in. Basically, I laid the piece I just cut on the case, and clamped it where I wanted it to be. Then I used a sharp knife and cut all around it in the veneer, until I was through the veneer.

After the veneer was cut, I used an iron (to the left of the chassis) and a spray bottle filled with water. The hide glue that I used for the veneer is reversible with the right amount of heat and moisture. So, I sprayed the veneer and went over it with the iron, and repeated until the glue became viscous again. Then I just peeled up the piece of veneer I cut out earlier, and made sure all the edges were stuck down again.


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This was a perfect fit the first time this way. Quite pleased with it. You get a nice little sneak peak at what the grain looks like too, since it’s still damp.


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Repeat for the top/front piece of aluminum


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And this is about what it’ll look like. (I had also cut out a notch in the top piece of aluminum, to go around the fan intake). I’ll be doing a brushed aluminum effect to it as well before all is said and done.





As always, thanks for checking it out! Hopefully I’ll have a video for Monday. thumb.gif
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With every update, I keep getting more and more impressed! Keep up the great work!
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Wow! That aluminum trim looks great, nice work! specool.gif
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With every update, I keep getting more and more impressed! Keep up the great work!

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Wow! That aluminum trim looks great, nice work! specool.gif

Thanks guys! I promise that miter in the aluminum is a lot better than what it looks like in the picture... I just couldn't get it clamped in the right place for the picture lol I've done a lot of new things in this build... lots of fun smile.gif
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