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I have my current teamspeak server running on a G540 chip (sandy bridge dual core) and my plex server running on my main gaming rig. However i would really like to move the plex to the teamspeak server box but at the same time i hate it when i lose power and my TS server goes down. I have 2 4TB drives for my plex library right now so the motherboard would have to support drives larger than 2TB.
I have been playing with 2 ideas in my head
idea 1. Get a decent laptop with good vents and battery life to run the TS server 24/7, and just use the current TS server box to host my plex. This would cost the money of a laptop, used hopefully, as well as a new case for the TS server so i could hold more drives than the 2 that are in there.
idea 2. Get a good battery backup and different case for my current server and just run both plex and TS on the same box. This option as of right now might be the most budget friendly but i still would like opinions from different angles.

Note* the TS server CAN NOT be used for gaming as it only has onboard graphics and the pci express 16 slot is not functioning. Please try to keep budget in mind. Thanks

This is my current TS server > http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/5870592

EDIT: the third option is to just mod the current emachines case to house more hard drives but have no idea how that would work.
post #2 of 9
Personally i wouldn't do the laptop route. I don't know too much about TS as a server, but isnt it possible to have 1 server run both TS and Plex? For the price of what a laptop and an external enclosure would cost you could build a server yourself. I built a Plex server and i think excluding drives it maybe cost me like $600 give or take a bit. Thats with an i5 4430 which is overkill for my use (build in my sig and i have a build log somewhere too). This way you wouldnt have to have 2 systems going, potentially less power drawl for the same purpose, more expandability. What is your budget?

A battery backup may safegaurd against data loss so the server has enough time to shutdown. I dont have one but i dont lose power in my apt very often.
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by Zer0CoolX View Post

Personally i wouldn't do the laptop route. I don't know too much about TS as a server, but isnt it possible to have 1 server run both TS and Plex? For the price of what a laptop and an external enclosure would cost you could build a server yourself. I built a Plex server and i think excluding drives it maybe cost me like $600 give or take a bit. Thats with an i5 4430 which is overkill for my use (build in my sig and i have a build log somewhere too). This way you wouldnt have to have 2 systems going, potentially less power drawl for the same purpose, more expandability. What is your budget?

A battery backup may safegaurd against data loss so the server has enough time to shutdown. I dont have one but i dont lose power in my apt very often.

Definately possible to run plex and TS on one server. I already have the server set to automatically power back up after power loss, and there is no password so TS automatically starts. AS of right now these are just ideas with little money to back them. I just spent 300 on watercooling my main rig, rog maximus, and the GF and i just got a dog. so money is being spent on materials there. Since the emachines case didn't cost me a dime and i don't mind ripping it up, i may just find a way to mount the 2 4TB drives in there and hook them up. That dual core should be plenty to run both.
post #4 of 9
have you considered tossing your TS server onto a remote server?
the amazon EC2 virtual compute server micro instances are free for the first year and i just stuck a TS server on one, it was easy and took little time.
after the first year i think they are like dollars a month to run for something like TS since the EC2 servers are priced based on usage.
plus, it'll likely never go down since it's based in one of amazon's server centers.

plex wise, i just use my main rig as a server and i have never seen it affect anything i might be doing on the PC at the same time.
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I would run a hypervisor such as vsphere; although you could also use Server 2012 V2 or Windows 8.1.

You would then create two vms, preferably cli centos 7 vms (just my personal preference), of cause you can run windows if you would prefer, that G540 is probably going to have a very very hard time transcoding media with plex. If you could stretch I would get another stick of 4GB RAM and a nicer processor, I don't know if just 2 cores will cut it here.

There is no need for another computer and used uspes are good value, if I can find find it there is a Dell UPS that is fairly popular around the server section ATM.

Just putting this out here, you could scroll through low end box and find a vps to host your TS server there.
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Originally Posted by t00sl0w View Post

have you considered tossing your TS server onto a remote server?
the amazon EC2 virtual compute server micro instances are free for the first year and i just stuck a TS server on one, it was easy and took little time.
after the first year i think they are like dollars a month to run for something like TS since the EC2 servers are priced based on usage.
plus, it'll likely never go down since it's based in one of amazon's server centers.

plex wise, i just use my main rig as a server and i have never seen it affect anything i might be doing on the PC at the same time.

The only downside with using my main rig is lately it has randomly locked up a couple times, and then the folks upstairs who stream from it complain the video stopped. So i figured the Ts server is up 24/7 as is so why not just throw the drives in there. and I will not be doing much transcoding. most of the movies are going from pc to pc, i just want to try and push them to use plex VS the network drives i have setup for them now.
As for the UPS it is not a necessity right now but would be nice to have the server up if a power outage only lasted 5 minutes or so. my router and cable box are on my main battery backup so they can be up for over an hour during a power outage.
I really don't want to pay to have a server remote, especially since most of the parts for the TS server were donated by my friends from various parts of the country. It is always an option to just swap the CPU if i end up doing more transcoding. As for paying for services if anything i would just pay a small fee to have my ip address use an actual name. that way i could have my friends type in a website name for the server address vs what we are doing now and just connecting through straight IP.

On another note, i want to move a few of the hard drives out of my main rig due to weight. It is a heavy BI*** as it is and i'll be adding water cooling this saturday, adding to the problem.
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Time to virtualize thumb.gif

I would run a hypervisor such as vsphere; although you could also use Server 2012 V2 or Windows 8.1.

You would then create two vms, preferably cli centos 7 vms (just my personal preference), of cause you can run windows if you would prefer, that G540 is probably going to have a very very hard time transcoding media with plex. If you could stretch I would get another stick of 4GB RAM and a nicer processor, I don't know if just 2 cores will cut it here.

There is no need for another computer and used uspes are good value, if I can find find it there is a Dell UPS that is fairly popular around the server section ATM.

Just putting this out here, you could scroll through low end box and find a vps to host your TS server there.

I don't really want to virtualize either, I have the windows 7 OS configured how i need it to use minimal resources while hosting the TS and soon probably Plex, if i can find a way to mount the drives.
post #7 of 9
Check my build log, i got a free domain to point to my plex to access it remotely (if i didnt include info let me know ill post here later). Usually cases from PC builders are a pita to work in because they dont want you upgrading but if you dont mind modding you may be able to fit a few drives in it. If its a standard size motherbaord and the other parts are standard you may even consider getting a cheap case to move the stuff to. Id say if your not doing alot of transcoding the dual core cpu should be fine, if i were you id give it a go with what you have and see how it performs. Then you can decide how much money you want or need to sink into it.
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Originally Posted by Zer0CoolX View Post

Check my build log, i got a free domain to point to my plex to access it remotely (if i didnt include info let me know ill post here later). Usually cases from PC builders are a pita to work in because they dont want you upgrading but if you dont mind modding you may be able to fit a few drives in it. If its a standard size motherbaord and the other parts are standard you may even consider getting a cheap case to move the stuff to. Id say if your not doing alot of transcoding the dual core cpu should be fine, if i were you id give it a go with what you have and see how it performs. Then you can decide how much money you want or need to sink into it.

My thoughts exactly. I just want to do things cheap right now. I know the other case is an option. the emachines case is just a MATX so it's compatible.
post #9 of 9
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Well i will be installing the 2 4TB drives in the teamspeak server tonight. I got around the roadblock of multiple users with auto sign on. That way if the power goes out the server will automatically log back in to start.
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