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post #1121 of 1277
The click latency is the reason I stopped using it. Can't have that in Quake frown.gif
And if it means a new Castor, then the 3360 would make paying another 70 less bad biggrin.gif
post #1122 of 1277
I still think Mionix should take a stab at a basic 3 (or 5) button ambi mouse. Of course 3360 at this point.

Heck, they could keep the same exact Avior shape. Just shave of some grams and get rid of the pesky side-buttons.
post #1123 of 1277
Hey, I'm completely new here but your threads have previously been great for me to read when it's come to things like choosing a gaming mouse.

So I chose the Mionix Castor. And now, after 3 weeks of use, the right button has begun to "stick" after I press it down, and also the same button has begun to "feel loose", like wobbly, because (I think) the button is no longer resting directly upon the switch.
So when I click it, I often get a "Ch-Click" sound (and feeling), and on top of that sometimes the button sticks in a down position. It just doesn't bounce back like my left button and I really have to lift my finger for it to release, and because of this I screw up with sniper weapons in cs go all the time as you could imagine.
I'm gonna go back to the store and hopefully they will replace it, which they should, right?
If not, I'll buy a new one and here comes my real question:

TL;DR:
Is the required click pressure stiffer/harder on the new Benq Zowie mice (compared to the Castor)? The buttons on the Castor are almost to light for me, and even though I love the shape, its also just a bit too small. And honestly I'm a little bit disappointed at how fast this mouse started giving in, I treated this mouse calm and carefully even when I had to 360 noscope your mom. So if the "click" on the new Zowie mouses are stiffer i'm probably just gonna go for a ec1-a.

What are your personal opinions? Click pressure first and foremost, but also what mouse might be the more durable in general.

Now I will go to bed and pray to Gaben that I posted this in the right part of the forum. If not, feel free to redirect me and it will be as though I never were here.
Edited by mcfisk - 6/18/16 at 10:18pm
post #1124 of 1277
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Originally Posted by mcfisk View Post

TL;DR:
Is the required click pressure stiffer/harder on the new Benq Zowie mice (compared to the Castor)? The buttons on the Castor are almost to light for me, and even though I love the shape, its also just a bit too small. And honestly I'm a little bit disappointed at how fast this mouse started giving in, I treated this mouse calm and carefully even when I had to 360 noscope your mom. So if the "click" on the new Zowie mouses are stiffer i'm probably just gonna go for a ec1-a.
The Castor has probably one of the lightest clicks I've used on a mouse. Almost to the point where there's very little pre-travel. Yet its biggest weakness is the click latency. It has been mentioned time and time again and Mionix has yet to release a firmware update that addresses this issue. This might be a mechanical thing where the only workaround is to make sure this doesn't happen again with a completely brand new mouse like a Castor 2.

As for Zowie mice, I own an EC1-A and EC2-A. The clicks are stiff and it's not because they're using Huano switches, it's because the shell contributes to the stiff clicks. My EC1-A gives this refreshing tactile feedback when you press a button. However, if you like to spam buttons or do a lot of tap firing in FPS games, Zowie mice might give your fingers some fatigue quicker than if you used other mice. By the way, the EC1-A is massive in comparison to the Castor. You may want to try out the EC2-A.

Here's a pic of my EC1-A side by side with my Castor. It's one of the biggest mice (aside from the Rival) I've ever used.

Edited by VESPA5 - 6/18/16 at 10:57pm
post #1125 of 1277
So, I had a weird issue where my Windows clock would NOT Kerri time going to sleep (that's also when I'd have issues with the mouse is during waking from sleep). I replaced the CMOS battery, which is the first time I've ever done that, and I don't put my computer to sleep anymore.

I haven't had an issue with the Castor turning on when booting. So, if you have issues on wake from sleep, may want to not sleep your rig anymore.

On the other side, I've decided to buy a soldering iron and will be replacing the switches on my old G9X and going back to it. The shape was literally perfect and I never had issues with its sensor.

So, I'm sorry Mionix, but this is the second mouse I've bought and I've had issues with both. I have both a long hard try, but I'm breaking up with you.

I've also been nagging Logitech to update the G9X, but it seems they'd rather keep going with the giant domed mice than update what was for many people the perfect mouse shape. frown.gif
post #1126 of 1277
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Originally Posted by VESPA5 View Post

The Castor has probably one of the lightest clicks I've used on a mouse. Almost to the point where there's very little pre-travel. Yet its biggest weakness is the click latency...

How big is the click latency difference between the EC-2A and Castor? From reading Ino's reviews the BenQ Zowie seem to be 8-9 ms slower than the G402 and the Castor seem to be 10-11 ms slower than the G303, but what is the difference between the G303 and the G402? I honestly must say I don't really notice the click latency ingame, maybe I'm subconsciously compensating for it, but I wouldn't choose the EC2-A for a 3 ms gain, I would do it for the stiffer clicks. But if I understood the click latency on the BenQ Zowies wrong and there's actually even less latency, then I might buy the EC-2A even if the store won't give me a refund for the Castor. At least then I will be able to sleep at night.

Man I hate ending up with a bad sample of a good product.

By the way, and I'm sorry if I'm going completely asperger on you guys right now but I find using good old bar soap gives me the best grip on the castor and most other mice, I guess it leaves behind some residue of fatty- and steraic acids that really makes your hand stick to the rubberized coating. Many liquid soaps contain too much moisturizers and your grip gets slippery when sweaty. Going hardcore with dish soap dries out your hands too much which of course makes your skin sad but it also denies the properties of the coating which I suppose is designed to work best in contact with a semi-moist hand.
Edited by mcfisk - 6/19/16 at 8:03pm
post #1127 of 1277
The castor about about 6 to 8 ms slower then the EC2A or FK1 and about 11ms slower then G303 or G402.
post #1128 of 1277
mionix support is good? until now no news regarding the firmware to fix the click latency & over-shoot problem. i think is due to the hardware limitation that's y they unable to release a new firmware.
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post #1129 of 1277
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Originally Posted by VESPA5 View Post

The Castor has probably one of the lightest clicks I've used on a mouse.

How do they pull that off? All these other threads here talk about how having the mouse buttons be part of the shell is supoptimal due to how much harder it makes clicks. And yet the Castor does still get to have the lightest clicks despite the buttons being part of the shell?
post #1130 of 1277
Mionix buttons provide very great clicks.
Used a Naos 7000 for two years and the LM and RM are still quite crisp. The newer Castor clicks fine, too. Actuation force is low, when compared to a Zowie ZA for example. But you won't actuate them by accident. It gives a good feedback and doesn't feel mushy in any way.

At least that counts for my both models...

Support is fine,too. They really strife to find a solution in case you have issues with their products.
They even send me some replacement feet for my Naos, just for free.
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