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msg is right, we have got to get that GPU-E Category reworked. Can we get a consensus of dropping the 2x GPU regulation and get it down to 1x GPU before the beginning of next month?

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msg is right, we have got to get that GPU-E Category reworked. Can we get a consensus of dropping the 2x GPU regulation and get it down to 1x GPU before the beginning of next month?

If we get rid of the 2x cards that would leave the GTX 780 Ti or the Titan top dog.

Are you asking for more expensive single cards? The category is called GPU-Elite for a reason.
    
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msg is right, we have got to get that GPU-E Category reworked. Can we get a consensus of dropping the 2x GPU regulation and get it down to 1x GPU before the beginning of next month?

If we get rid of the 2x cards that would leave the GTX 780 Ti or the Titan top dog.

Are you asking for more expensive single cards? The category is called GPU-Elite for a reason.

Well maybe not allow 780Ti and Titan in then? Or at least no 780Ti or Titan Blacks. So 780 and down, that's a fair price point.

It might further complicate things, but 2x cards was never welcomed really in the TC.
 
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Well maybe not allow 780Ti and Titan in then? Or at least no 780Ti or Titan Blacks. So 780 and down, that's a fair price point.

It might further complicate things, but 2x cards was never welcomed really in the TC.

You should check out the TC stats.

We have the nVidia and AMD GPU categories for those below the GPU-E category and both are single cards only.

All of the posts that I have seen on this thread involve asking good TC folders to go and I'm not talking about temp folders.

I did eat at a Hooters yesterday. yessir.gif
    
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Personally, I think we do need to eliminate the 2x GPUs ASAP. Looking at the stats, there are 6 teams that have 2x GPU folders, but if you look at the numbers being produced by those with the single GPUs, they are pretty much in line. ALUCARDVPR, PantherAI, and jayKthnx are all within a million points of each other whereas the 2x GPU guys are millions of points ahead. Heck, PanterAI is running a Titan and he has less than 1/2 the points of msgcib's 2x 280Xs, so how could one of those not be competitive with his Titan.

Sure, being competitive in the GPU-E will be costly, but that is the price we are willing to pay to be competitive.

But honestly, I was just looking at prices on Newegg, and you can get a 780Ti for less than the cost of 2 280Xs, so I don't see where the cost should even be a factor. Especially considering, if we take out all the 2x GPU folders, the top three spots are a 780Ti, a Titan, and a 780. The 780Ti is out performing the Titan and the 780 is not that far behind.




Outside of that, I feel that TC has fallen off over the 3+ years I've been involved with it, and while yes, the economy has played a big part in that, it is also on us, as folders. When I got into folding (and joined the TC), it was because I had folders contacting me, people saw the hardware I was running and PMed me saying "Hey, I see you have an i5, have you ever thought about folding?" I hadn't heard of it before that, but just those PMs were enough to make me take a look at it. While I'm just as much to blame as anyone (I barely have time to write this post, let alone go recruiting), I think that is why the TC has fallen off. We have become less active over the years. Also, the stats being down for months on end killed it for a lot of people, but I think we could rebuild it if we just took the time to go out and find new people, introduce them to folding in general, then talk to them about the TC.

Anyway, that is all just my 2cents.gif.
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Well this tread was not posted to discuss the GPU-E Category alone. This thread was also posted to discuss other things we could to to bring the TC back to its original glory.

While, yes, the GPU-E situation is an issue its not the sole problem. There's an issue with filling out Teams. Heck even the Foldathons have seen a reduction in participation. Overall, OCN has seen a reduced interest in the folding section. Lets take a look at what I am talking about:

August 2012 Foldathon Prizes
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OCN Prizes:

$25 PayPal - donated by admin - sstnt
$25 PayPal - donated by admin - u3b3rg33k
$25 PayPal - donated by admin - sid9671111

Lifetime Overclocked account - donated by admin - Lee17
Lifetime Overclocked account - donated by admin - Onex



Donated Prizes:

Monsoon fittings - 6-pack - 1/2" x 3/4" Chrome - donated by Monsoon - VincentJ
Portal 1 (Steam) - donated by Samurai707 - kazenagi
2x $25 Newegg Gift Card - donated by king8654 - (Must be Active Folder) - klewlis1 & curve_in


Referral Prizes:

1st place - OCN Ducky keyboard - donated by admin - BWG
2nd place - $50 through PayPal - donated by admin - derickwm
3rd place - $25 through PayPal - donated by admin - ElementR

Random Draw - OCN Ducky Keyboard - donated by admin - ironsurvivor


August 2014 Foldathon Prizes
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OCN Donated:


3x $25 PayPal
2x Overclocked Account

Member Donations:

(All the games donated below are for Steam)
Dungeon Defenders - me
I have a few more Steam games to add, just need to go through my old PMs.
Spotswood ATX-sized Open-frame Tech Tray along with an optional lower tier. - Spotswood

Total Cash Prize: $75


Team Competition Prizes
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6x $10 PayPal Prizes - The Winning Team in Division I
6x $10 PayPal Prizes - 1 random drawling in each category picked from the overall category folding leaders 1-10 (includes all Divisions) This is individual points only, not a combination of 2+ folders in the same category.

$10 for each member of the winning team.....Wow, that month long commitment really get noticed huh? Yeah I know its not about the prizes but the glory, but still.......

While most of us don't do it for the prizes, it does show the apparent lack of interest from the OCN Admins and the definite drop of interest of the folders overall with the drop in member donations. Yes we still have the 3x $25 Prizes and the 2x Overclocked account prizes. But the rest of it has seemingly dropped off. Now there is another Distributed Computing Program that is getting a bit of recognition. BOINC.

BOINCers Gone Bonkers #43 - September 8th-11th, 2014 Prizes
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($75) - $75 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($50) - $50 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($50) - $50 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($35) - Overclocked Account - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($25) - $25 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($20) - $20 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($10) - Overclock.net Lanyard - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:

Drawn once a day for each day of event.
($10) - $10 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($10) - $10 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:
($10) - $10 Paypal - Donated by Overclock.net - Winner:

Total amount in cash prizes: $295(this is not right amount as they draw 3x $10 each day of the event as well)


**THE QUOTES ABOVE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENCE IN INTEREST ONLY!!!**

Yes we do have other events the the prize money goes to. Maybe we need to rethink think how many events the FAH Team has going. BOINC is more of a FAT event. Where as TC is Month long. Shouldn't the prize pool reflect the difference? Its one thing to Fold or BOINC for 2-3 days, its another to do it all month every month.


Yes, we used to send out PM's to people with the right hardware for folding. But when the overall OCN membership and attendance(members joined but not online) has fallen theres a smaller pool to PM and as a result no one really left to PM. Not to mention, the amount of angry people that were being spammed by TC folders to join their respective teams. I can't tell you the number of times I got a nasty PM back. Heck I think I was even blocked a few times.

Yeah, this is a long post. But these are just a few things that have come to my attention that I think we need to work on changing.
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Well maybe not allow 780Ti and Titan in then? Or at least no 780Ti or Titan Blacks. So 780 and down, that's a fair price point.

It might further complicate things, but 2x cards was never welcomed really in the TC.

With that suggestion I think it would just be easier to eliminate the category as a whole and divvy the folders up among teams with openings. I personally think that would be a solution, although I am sure it would not be a welcome one. I say we let single more powerful cards that will be coming out (or are already out, haven't had any time to check) phase out dual cards.
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